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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: "Lan Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	"Yang Zhang" <yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	gleb@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Enable more than 255 VCPU support without irq remapping function in the guest
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 08:56:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <572062B8.5030103@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57205B12.6070003@intel.com>

On 2016-04-27 08:24, Lan Tianyu wrote:
> On 2016年04月27日 13:24, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> If we don't want the interrupt from internal device delivers to CPU
>>>>>> 255, do we still need the VT-d interrupt remapping emulation? I think
>>>> firmware is able to send IPI to wakeup APs even without IR and OS is
>>>> able to do it too. So basically, only KVM and Qemu's support is enough.
> 
> Yes, just starting more than 255 APs doesn't need IR.
> 
>> What are "internal devices" for you? And which OS do you know that would
>> handle such artificial setups without prio massive patching?
>>
>> We do need VT-d IR emulation in order to present our guest a well
>> specified and support architecture for running > 255 CPUs.
> 
> Changing guest kernel will be big concern. I found commit ce69a784 did
> optimization to use X2APIC without IR in the guest when APIC id is less
> than 256 and so I proposed my idea to see everyone's feedback. Whether
> it's possible to relax the IR requirement when APIC id > 255 in the guest.

You can't do that easily because you can't address those additional CPUs
from *any* device then, only via IPIs. That means, Linux would have to
be changed to only set up IRQ affinity masks in the 0-254 range. I
suppose you would even have to patch tools like irqbalanced to not issue
mask changes via /proc that include larger CPU IDs. Practically not
feasible, already on Linux. Not to speak of other guest OSes.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-27  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-26 16:14 Enable more than 255 VCPU support without irq remapping function in the guest Lan, Tianyu
2016-04-26 16:17 ` Jan Kiszka
2016-04-26 16:49   ` Radim Krčmář
2016-04-27  4:10     ` Yang Zhang
2016-04-27  5:24       ` Jan Kiszka
2016-04-27  6:24         ` Lan Tianyu
2016-04-27  6:56           ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2016-04-27  9:39         ` Yang Zhang
2016-04-27  9:45           ` Jan Kiszka
2016-04-28  1:11             ` Yang Zhang
2016-04-28  6:54               ` Jan Kiszka
2016-04-28 15:32                 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-04-29  2:09                   ` Yang Zhang
2016-04-29  3:01                     ` Nadav Amit
2016-05-03  1:34                       ` Yang Zhang
2016-04-29  4:59                     ` Jan Kiszka
2016-05-03  1:52                       ` Yang Zhang
2016-05-03  2:03                         ` Nadav Amit
2016-05-03  4:55                           ` Jan Kiszka
2016-05-04  1:46                             ` Yang Zhang
2016-05-04  1:56                               ` Nadav Amit
2016-05-04  5:38                               ` Jan Kiszka
2016-04-27  5:39     ` Lan Tianyu
2016-04-27 14:38       ` Radim Krčmář
2016-04-27  5:15   ` Lan Tianyu

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