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From: Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com, cjia@nvidia.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] vfio: Mediated device Core driver
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:08:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57DF8ED5.9010807@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160912095314.31b20e31@t450s.home>

On 09/12/2016 11:53 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:19:11 +0530
> Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/12/2016 10:40 AM, Jike Song wrote:
>>> On 09/10/2016 03:55 AM, Kirti Wankhede wrote:  
>>>> On 9/10/2016 12:12 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:  
>>>>> On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 23:18:45 +0530
>>>>> Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>> On 9/8/2016 1:39 PM, Jike Song wrote:  
>>>>>>> On 08/25/2016 11:53 AM, Kirti Wankhede wrote:    
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  +---------------+
>>>>>>>>  |               |
>>>>>>>>  | +-----------+ |  mdev_register_driver() +--------------+
>>>>>>>>  | |           | +<------------------------+ __init()     |
>>>>>>>>  | |  mdev     | |                         |              |
>>>>>>>>  | |  bus      | +------------------------>+              |<-> VFIO user
>>>>>>>>  | |  driver   | |     probe()/remove()    | vfio_mdev.ko |    APIs
>>>>>>>>  | |           | |                         |              |
>>>>>>>>  | +-----------+ |                         +--------------+
>>>>>>>>  |               |    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This aimed to have only one single vfio bus driver for all mediated devices,
>>>>>>> right?
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes. That's correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +static int mdev_add_attribute_group(struct device *dev,
>>>>>>>> +				    const struct attribute_group **groups)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> +	return sysfs_create_groups(&dev->kobj, groups);
>>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +static void mdev_remove_attribute_group(struct device *dev,
>>>>>>>> +					const struct attribute_group **groups)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> +	sysfs_remove_groups(&dev->kobj, groups);
>>>>>>>> +}    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These functions are not necessary. You can always specify the attribute groups
>>>>>>> to dev->groups before registering a new device.
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the time of mdev device create, I specifically didn't used
>>>>>> dev->groups because we callback in vendor driver before that, see below
>>>>>> code snippet, and those attributes should only be added if create()
>>>>>> callback returns success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ret = parent->ops->create(mdev, mdev_params);
>>>>>>         if (ret)
>>>>>>                 return ret;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         ret = mdev_add_attribute_group(&mdev->dev,
>>>>>>                                         parent->ops->mdev_attr_groups);
>>>>>>         if (ret)
>>>>>>                 parent->ops->destroy(mdev);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +static struct parent_device *mdev_get_parent_from_dev(struct device *dev)
>>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>>> +	struct parent_device *parent;
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +	mutex_lock(&parent_list_lock);
>>>>>>>> +	parent = mdev_get_parent(__find_parent_device(dev));
>>>>>>>> +	mutex_unlock(&parent_list_lock);
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +	return parent;
>>>>>>>> +}    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As we have demonstrated, all these refs and locks and release workqueue are not necessary,
>>>>>>> as long as you have an independent device associated with the mdev host device
>>>>>>> ("parent" device here).
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think every lock will go away with that. This also changes how
>>>>>> mdev devices entries are created in sysfs. It adds an extra directory.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Exposing the parent-child relationship through sysfs is a desirable
>>>>> feature, so I'm not sure how this is a negative.  This part of Jike's
>>>>> conversion was a big improvement, I thought.  Thanks,
>>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Jike's suggestion is to introduced a fake device over parent device i.e.
>>>> mdev-host, and then all mdev devices are children of 'mdev-host' not
>>>> children of real parent.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> It really depends on how you define 'real parent' :)
>>>
>>> With a physical-host-mdev hierarchy, the parent of mdev devices is the host
>>> device, the parent of host device is the physical device. e.g.
>>>
>>>         pdev            mdev_host       mdev_device
>>>         dev<------------dev<------------dev
>>>               parent          parent
>>>
>>>         Figure 1: device hierarchy
>>>   
>>
>> Right, mdev-host device doesn't represent physical device nor any mdev
>> device. Then what is the need of such device?
> 
> Is there anything implicitly wrong with using a device node to host the
> mdev child devices?  Is the argument against it only that it's
> unnecessary?  Can we make use of the device-core parent/child
> dependencies as Jike has done w/o that extra node?
>  
>>>> For example, directory structure we have now is:
>>>> /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:85\:00.0/<mdev_device>
>>>>
>>>> mdev devices are in real parents directory.
>>>>
>>>> By introducing fake device it would be:
>>>> /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:85\:00.0/mdev-host/<mdev_device>
>>>>
>>>> mdev devices are in fake device's directory.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> Yes, this is the wanted directory.
>>>   
>>
>> I don't think so.
> 
> Why?
> 
>>>> Lock would be still required, to handle the race conditions like
>>>> 'mdev_create' is still in process and parent device is unregistered by
>>>> vendor driver/ parent device is unbind from vendor driver.
>>>>  
>>>
>>> locks are provided to protect resources, would you elaborate more on
>>> what is the exact resource you want to protect by a lock in mdev_create?
>>>   
>>
>> Simple, in your suggestion mdev-host device. Fake device will go away if
>> vendor driver unregisters the device from mdev module, right.
> 
> I don't follow the reply here, but aiui there's ordering implicit in
> the device core that Jike is trying to take advantage of that
> simplifies the mdev layer significantly.  In the case of an
> mdev_create, the device core needs to take a reference to the parent
> object, the mdev-host I'd guess in Jike's version, the created mdev
> device would also have a reference to that object, so the physical host
> device could not be removed so long as there are outstanding
> references.  It's just a matter of managing references and acquiring
> and releasing objects.  Thanks,

Hi Kirti/Neo,

Any thought on this part? Could we have more discussion in case that
further concern raised?


--
Thanks,
Jike


  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-19  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-25  3:53 [PATCH v7 0/4] Add Mediated device support Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-25  3:53 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] vfio: Mediated device Core driver Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-08  8:09   ` Jike Song
2016-09-08  9:38     ` Neo Jia
2016-09-09  6:26       ` Jike Song
2016-09-09 17:48     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-09 18:42       ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-09 19:55         ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-12  5:10           ` Jike Song
2016-09-12  7:49             ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-12 15:53               ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-19  7:08                 ` Jike Song [this message]
2016-09-19 17:29                 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 18:11                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-19 20:09                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 20:59                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-09-20 12:48   ` Jike Song
2016-08-25  3:53 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] vfio: VFIO driver for mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-25  9:22   ` Dong Jia
2016-08-26 14:13     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-08  2:38       ` Jike Song
2016-09-19 18:22       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 18:36         ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-19 19:13           ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 20:03             ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-20  2:50               ` Jike Song
2016-09-20 16:24                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-21  3:19                   ` Jike Song
2016-09-21  4:51                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-21  5:02                       ` Jike Song
2016-09-08  2:45     ` Jike Song
2016-09-13  2:35       ` Jike Song
2016-09-20  5:48         ` Dong Jia Shi
     [not found]         ` <20160920054851.GA2186@bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2016-09-20  6:37           ` Jike Song
2016-09-20 12:53   ` Jike Song
2016-08-25  3:53 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] vfio iommu: Add support " Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-25  7:29   ` Dong Jia
2016-08-26 13:50     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-29  2:17   ` Jike Song
2016-09-29 15:06     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-30  2:58       ` Jike Song
2016-09-30  3:10         ` Jike Song
2016-09-30 11:44           ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-10-08  7:09             ` Jike Song
2016-08-25  3:53 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] docs: Add Documentation for Mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-03 16:40   ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-30 16:16 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] Add Mediated device support Alex Williamson
2016-08-31  6:12   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-31  7:04     ` Jike Song
2016-08-31 15:48       ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-01  4:09         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-01  4:10         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-01 18:22         ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-01 20:01           ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-02  6:17             ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-01 16:47     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michal Privoznik
2016-09-01 16:59       ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-02  4:48         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michal Privoznik
2016-09-02  5:21           ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-02 10:05             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 17:15               ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-02 17:25                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 18:33                   ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-02 20:29                     ` [libvirt] " John Ferlan
2016-09-03 16:31                       ` [libvirt] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-06 17:54                         ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2016-09-02 21:48                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-03 11:56                       ` [libvirt] " John Ferlan
2016-09-03 13:07                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-03 17:47                           ` [libvirt] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-03 16:34                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-06 17:40                         ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-06 19:35                           ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-06 21:28                             ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07  8:22                               ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-07 16:00                                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 16:15                               ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-07 16:44                                 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 18:06                                   ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-07 22:13                                     ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-08 18:48                                       ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-08 20:51                                         ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 18:17                                   ` Neo Jia
2016-09-07 18:27                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-07 18:32                                       ` Neo Jia
2016-09-07  6:48                           ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-02 20:19               ` [libvirt] " John Ferlan
2016-09-02 21:44                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 23:57                   ` Laine Stump
2016-09-03 16:49                     ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-05  7:52                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-03 11:57                   ` John Ferlan
2016-09-05  7:54                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 17:55         ` Laine Stump
2016-09-02 19:15           ` [libvirt] " Alex Williamson

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