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From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>, Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Ira Weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
	"Rick Edgecombe" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 10:30:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <68b0762463960_22d9829498@iweiny-mobl.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK9Xqy0W1ghonWUL@google.com>

Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 05:05:19PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > @@ -1641,14 +1618,30 @@ static int tdx_sept_set_private_spte(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn,
> > >  		return -EIO;

[snip]

> > >  	/*
> > > -	 * Read 'pre_fault_allowed' before 'kvm_tdx->state'; see matching
> > > -	 * barrier in tdx_td_finalize().
> > > +	 * Ensure pre_fault_allowed is read by kvm_arch_vcpu_pre_fault_memory()
> > > +	 * before kvm_tdx->state.  Userspace must not be allowed to pre-fault
> > > +	 * arbitrary memory until the initial memory image is finalized.  Pairs
> > > +	 * with the smp_wmb() in tdx_td_finalize().
> > >  	 */
> > >  	smp_rmb();
> > > -	if (likely(kvm_tdx->state == TD_STATE_RUNNABLE))
> > > -		return tdx_mem_page_aug(kvm, gfn, level, pfn);
> > >  
> > > -	return tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt(kvm, gfn, level, pfn);
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * If the TD isn't finalized/runnable, then userspace is initializing
> > > +	 * the VM image via KVM_TDX_INIT_MEM_REGION.  Increment the number of
> > > +	 * pages that need to be initialized via TDH.MEM.PAGE.ADD (PAGE.ADD
> > > +	 * requires a pre-existing S-EPT mapping).  KVM_TDX_FINALIZE_VM checks
> > > +	 * the counter to ensure all mapped pages have been added to the image,
> > > +	 * to prevent running the TD with uninitialized memory.
> > To prevent the mismatch between mirror EPT and the S-EPT?
> 
> No?  Because KVM bumps the count when installing the S-EPT and decrements it
> on AUG, so I don't see how nr_premapped guards against M-EPT vs. S-EPT issues?
> 
> > e.g., Before KVM_TDX_FINALIZE_VM, if userspace performs a zap after the
> > TDH.MEM.PAGE.ADD, the page will be removed from the S-EPT. The count of
> > nr_premapped will not change after the successful TDH.MEM.RANGE.BLOCK and
> > TDH.MEM.PAGE.REMOVE.
> 
> Eww.  It would be nice to close that hole, but I suppose it's futile, e.g. the
> underlying problem is unexpectedly removing pages from the initial, whether the
> VMM is doing stupid things before vs. after FINALIZE doesn't really matter.
> 
> > As a result, the TD will still run with uninitialized memory.
> 
> No?  Because BLOCK+REMOVE means there are no valid S-EPT mappings.  There's a
> "hole" that the guest might not expect, but that hole will trigger an EPT
> violation and only get "filled" if the guest explicitly accepts an AUG'd page.
> 
> Side topic, why does KVM tolerate tdh_mem_page_add() failure?  IIUC, playing
> nice with tdh_mem_page_add() failure necessitates both the
> tdx_is_sept_zap_err_due_to_premap() craziness and the check in tdx_td_finalize()
> that all pending pages have been consumed.
> 
> What reasonable use case is there for gracefully handling tdh_mem_page_add() failure?
> 
> If there is a need to handle failure, I gotta imagine it's only for the -EBUSY
> case.  And if it's only for -EBUSY, why can't that be handled by retrying in
> tdx_vcpu_init_mem_region()?  If tdx_vcpu_init_mem_region() guarantees that all
> pages mapped into the S-EPT are ADDed, then it can assert that there are no
> pending pages when it completes (even if it "fails"), and similarly
> tdx_td_finalize() can KVM_BUG_ON/WARN_ON the number of pending pages being
> non-zero.

Ah just reading this...  yea I'm wondering the same thing.

Ira

[snip]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-28 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-27  0:05 [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] KVM: TDX: Drop PROVE_MMU=y sanity check on to-be-populated mappings Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:14   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:37   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  2:13   ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Add dedicated API to map guest_memfd pfn into TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:25   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:54     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  1:26       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  6:23         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:40           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  1:16             ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-01  0:39               ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  6:55       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  0:40   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  1:51     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] Revert "KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add a helper function to walk down the TDP MMU" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] KVM: x86/mmu: Rename kvm_tdp_map_page() to kvm_tdp_prefault_page() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:01   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 18:50     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 19:04       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] KVM: TDX: Drop superfluous page pinning in S-EPT management Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:33   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28  2:05     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:16       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  0:36   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  7:08     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:54       ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28  2:45   ` Huang, Kai
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] KVM: TDX: Return -EIO, not -EINVAL, on a KVM_BUG_ON() condition Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  8:39   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 17:26     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:11   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 19:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 20:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:19           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:34             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 15:03   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] KVM: TDX: Avoid a double-KVM_BUG_ON() in tdx_sept_zap_private_spte() Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:19   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 14:50     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  1:10       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:02   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] KVM: TDX: Use atomic64_dec_return() instead of a poor equivalent Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  2:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  6:48     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:14       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 22:33         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:18           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 15:03   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] KVM: TDX: Fold tdx_mem_page_record_premap_cnt() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:02   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27 19:08     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28  3:13       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  5:56         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:08           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28  5:43       ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 17:00         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 18:52           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 20:26             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 21:33               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 21:57                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-28 23:17                   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-29  6:08                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 22:06                 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-28 23:17                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  0:35                     ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-29  6:06                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 21:44             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-29  2:42             ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-29  2:31           ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-29  6:33             ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:30       ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2025-08-28 15:28     ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] KVM: TDX: Assert that slots_lock is held when nr_premapped is accessed Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] KVM: TDX: Track nr_premapped as an "unsigned long", not an "atomic64_t" Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:12   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-27  0:05 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] KVM: TDX: Rename nr_premapped to nr_pending_tdh_mem_page_adds Sean Christopherson
2025-08-27  9:22   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 15:23   ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-27  9:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] KVM: x86/mmu: TDX post-populate cleanups Yan Zhao
2025-08-28 19:01 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-08-28 23:19   ` Sean Christopherson

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