From: Dan Williams <djbw@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: mhonap@nvidia.com, alwilliamson@nvidia.com,
jonathan.cameron@huawei.com, dave.jiang@intel.com,
alejandro.lucero-palau@amd.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
alison.schofield@intel.com, vishal.l.verma@intel.com,
ira.weiny@intel.com, dmatlack@google.com, shuah@kernel.org,
yishaih@nvidia.com, skolothumtho@nvidia.com,
kevin.tian@intel.com, ankita@nvidia.com, vsethi@nvidia.com,
cjia@nvidia.com, targupta@nvidia.com, zhiw@nvidia.com,
kjaju@nvidia.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 16/20] vfio/cxl: Register regions with VFIO layer
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2026 12:36:53 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <69d1685538f45_556821002f@djbw-dev.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260404185330.GD2551565@ziepe.ca>
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 03, 2026 at 12:35:45PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> > > + /*
> > > + * CXL device memory is RAM, not MMIO. Use memremap() rather than
> >
> > Right, CXL.mem is RAM, not MMIO, so I question why is this not being
> > mapped via a RAM mechanism? Can you explain a bit more about why reusing
> > vfio MMIO mapping mechanisms is suitable here and what happens when we
> > get to questions like guest_memfd integration, page conversions, and
> > large page mapping support?
>
> None of that is applicable to VFIO. VFIO owns the entire address space
> and does not share it with the mm or anything else.
I was worried less about sharing and more about how the map eventually
gets used, but makes sense all of that is enabled through the VFIO VMA.
I have more reading to do in this space.
> > Maybe this is the start of the conversation for something simple, but I
> > would actually prefer uncached ioremap() if only to avoid all the
> > coherence management and suitability of MMIO mechanisms questions.
>
> The entire thing needs to be mmapable in a cache coherent way since
> that is what the HW semantic is. If you try to do something else you
> will break KVM support since it follows the VMA.
Then I assume it matters that memremap() sometimes silently falls back
to the direct map. The "VFIO owns" expectation needs to guard against
some helpful platform firmware mapping accelerator memory as System RAM.
At a minimum having VFIO fail to map in that case helps with the
argument I have been making that "no, EFI_CONVENTIONAL_MEMORY type +
EFI_SPECIFIC_PURPOSE flag" is not suitable for accelerators with private
CXL memory. Those want to be enforcing "EFI_RESERVED".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-04 19:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-01 14:38 [PATCH v2 00/20] vfio/pci: Add CXL Type-2 device passthrough support mhonap
2026-04-01 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 01/20] cxl: Add cxl_get_hdm_info() for HDM decoder metadata mhonap
2026-04-01 14:38 ` [PATCH v2 02/20] cxl: Declare cxl_find_regblock and cxl_probe_component_regs in public header mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/20] cxl: Move component/HDM register defines to uapi/cxl/cxl_regs.h mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 04/20] cxl: Split cxl_await_range_active() from media-ready wait mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/20] cxl: Record BIR and BAR offset in cxl_register_map mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/20] vfio: UAPI for CXL-capable PCI device assignment mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/20] vfio/pci: Add CXL state to vfio_pci_core_device mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 08/20] vfio/pci: Add CONFIG_VFIO_CXL_CORE and stub CXL hooks mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 09/20] vfio/cxl: Detect CXL DVSEC and probe HDM block mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 10/20] vfio/pci: Export config access helpers mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 11/20] vfio/cxl: Introduce HDM decoder register emulation framework mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 12/20] vfio/cxl: Wait for HDM ranges and create memdev mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 13/20] vfio/cxl: CXL region management support mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 14/20] vfio/cxl: DPA VFIO region with demand fault mmap and reset zap mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 15/20] vfio/cxl: Virtualize CXL DVSEC config writes mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 16/20] vfio/cxl: Register regions with VFIO layer mhonap
2026-04-03 19:35 ` Dan Williams
2026-04-04 18:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-04 19:36 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2026-04-06 21:22 ` Gregory Price
2026-04-06 22:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-06 22:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 17/20] vfio/pci: Advertise CXL cap and sparse component BAR to userspace mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 18/20] vfio/cxl: Provide opt-out for CXL feature mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 19/20] docs: vfio-pci: Document CXL Type-2 device passthrough mhonap
2026-04-01 14:39 ` [PATCH v2 20/20] selftests/vfio: Add CXL Type-2 VFIO assignment test mhonap
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