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From: Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Suravee Suthikulpanit" <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"patches@lists.linux.dev" <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu: Allow ATS to work on VFs when the PF uses IDENTITY
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:00:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <77197bcb-574e-4f46-87b5-1b1fe4a75e7f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240812113555.GP8378@nvidia.com>

On 2024/8/12 19:35, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 05:03:37PM +0800, Yi Liu wrote:
> 
>>> The PASID may require ATS to be enabled (ie SVA), but the RID may be
>>> IDENTITY for performance. The poor device has no idea it is not
>>> allowed to use ATS on the RID side :(
>>
>> If this is the only problematic case, the intel iommu driver in this
>> patch could check the scalable mode before enabling ATS in the
>> probe_device() op. In this way, the legacy mode iommu would keep the old
>> ATS enable policy.
> 
> At some point we will need to address this.. At least when we add
> PASID support to mlx5 it will need something since mlx5 is using ATS
> on the RID right now.
> 
> Supporting ATS with the IDENTITY optimization is a good idea in the
> IOMMU HW. The HW just has to answer the ATS with a 1:1 TA.

looks like Intel scalable mode would allow ATS work even device uses
IDENTITY. Below is what spec says when PGTT is PT.

Chapter 9.6:
Untranslated/Translation Requests (with or without PASID) referencing this
scalable-mode PASID Table Entry bypass address translation and are
processed as pass-through.

> Next, telling the driver that ATS is enabled but doesn't work on the
> RID would allow the driver to deal with it
> 
> Finally, doing things like using IDENTITY through a paging domain
> would be a last resort for troubled devices.

yep. It's another issue then.

-- 
Regards,
Yi Liu

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-13  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-07 18:19 [PATCH] iommu: Allow ATS to work on VFs when the PF uses IDENTITY Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09  2:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-09 13:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-12  0:09     ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-12  9:03     ` Yi Liu
2024-08-12 11:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-13  3:00         ` Yi Liu [this message]
2024-08-09 19:10 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-12  2:20 ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-13  3:11 ` Yi Liu
2024-08-13 12:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-13 23:21     ` Yi Liu
2024-08-13  8:52 ` Joerg Roedel

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