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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: x86: fix MSR_IA32_TSC read for nested migration
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:50:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7db1383cc9d40f76a02076c3b86cf832fd7463cc.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <de9411ce-aa83-77c8-b2ae-a3873250a0b1@redhat.com>

On Tue, 2020-09-22 at 14:50 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 21/09/20 18:23, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Avoid "should" in code comments and describe what the code is doing, not what
> > it should be doing.  The only exception for this is when the code has a known
> > flaw/gap, e.g. "KVM should do X, but because of Y, KVM actually does Z".
> > 
> > > +		 * return it's real L1 value so that its restore will be correct.
> > s/it's/its
> > 
> > Perhaps add "unconditionally" somewhere, since arch.tsc_offset can also contain
> > the L1 value.  E.g. 
> > 
> > 		 * Unconditionally return L1's TSC offset on userspace reads
> > 		 * so that userspace reads and writes always operate on L1's
> > 		 * offset, e.g. to ensure deterministic behavior for migration.
> > 		 */
> > 
> 
> Technically the host need not restore MSR_IA32_TSC at all.  This follows
> the idea of the discussion with Oliver Upton about transmitting the
> state of the kvmclock heuristics to userspace, which include a (TSC,
> CLOCK_MONOTONIC) pair to transmit the offset to the destination.  All
> that needs to be an L1 value is then the TSC value in that pair.
> 
> I'm a bit torn over this patch.  On one hand it's an easy solution, on
> the other hand it's... just wrong if KVM_GET_MSR is used for e.g.
> debugging the guest.

Could you explain why though? After my patch, the KVM_GET_MSR will consistently
read the L1 TSC, just like all other MSRs as I explained. I guess for debugging,
this should work?

The fact that TSC reads with the guest offset is a nice exception made for the guests,
that insist on reading this msr without inteception and not using rdtsc.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky

> 
> I'll talk to Maxim and see if he can work on the kvmclock migration stuff.
> 
> Paolo
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-22 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-21 10:38 [PATCH v2 0/1] KVM: correctly restore the TSC value on nested migration Maxim Levitsky
2020-09-21 10:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] KVM: x86: fix MSR_IA32_TSC read for " Maxim Levitsky
     [not found]   ` <20200921162326.GB23989@linux.intel.com>
2020-09-22 12:50     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-22 14:50       ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2020-09-22 15:39         ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-09-22 16:39           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-24 17:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-30 14:37     ` Maxim Levitsky

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