From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Zeng Guang <guang.zeng@intel.com>,
Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 7/8] KVM: VMX: Update PID-pointer table entry when APIC ID is changed
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:26:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e7d16f2919f4bc708a0da3237161b4325a867c5.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220223061037.GA21263@gao-cwp>
On Wed, 2022-02-23 at 14:10 +0800, Chao Gao wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 08:22:13PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > i.e. ACPI_NUMA gets priority and thus amd_numa_init() will never be reached if
> > the NUMA topology is enumerated in the ACPI tables. Furthermore, the VMM would
> > have to actually emulate an old AMD northbridge, which is also extremely unlikely.
> >
> > The odds of breaking a guest are further diminised given that KVM doesn't emulate
> > the xAPIC ID => x2APIC ID hilarity on AMD CPUs and no one has complained.
> >
> > So, rather than tie this to IPI virtualization, I think we should either make
> > the xAPIC ID read-only across the board,
>
> We will go this way and defer the introduction of "xapic_id_writable" to the
> emergence of the "crazy" use case.
>
> Levitsky, we plan to revise your patch 13 "[PATCH RESEND 13/30] KVM: x86: lapic:
> don't allow to change APIC ID when apic acceleration is enabled" to make xAPIC
> ID read-only regardless of APICv/AVIC and include it into IPI virtualization
> series (to eliminate the dependency on your AVIC series). Is it fine with you?
Absolutely!
> And does this patch 13 depend on other patches in your fixes?
This patch doesn't depend on anything.
There is also patch 14 in this series which closes a case where malicious userspace
could upload non default _x2apic id_. I haven't yet written a unit test
to demonstrate this, but I will soon.
You don't need that patch for now IMHO.
>
> > or if we want to hedge in case someone
> > has a crazy use case, make the xAPIC ID read-only by default, add a module param
> > to let userspace opt-in to a writable xAPIC ID, and report x2APIC and APICv as
> > unsupported if the xAPIC ID is writable. E.g. rougly this, plus your AVIC patches
> > if we want to hedge.
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-23 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-31 14:28 [PATCH v5 0/8] IPI virtualization support for VM Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] x86/cpu: Add new VMX feature, Tertiary VM-Execution control Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] KVM: VMX: Extend BUILD_CONTROLS_SHADOW macro to support 64-bit variation Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] KVM: VMX: Detect Tertiary VM-Execution control when setup VMCS config Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] KVM: VMX: dump_vmcs() reports tertiary_exec_control field as well Zeng Guang
2022-01-13 21:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14 4:19 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-20 1:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-20 5:34 ` Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] KVM: x86: Support interrupt dispatch in x2APIC mode with APIC-write VM exit Zeng Guang
2022-01-13 21:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14 7:52 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-14 17:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-15 2:08 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-18 0:44 ` Yuan Yao
2022-01-18 3:06 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-18 18:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-19 2:48 ` Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] KVM: VMX: enable IPI virtualization Zeng Guang
2022-01-13 21:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14 5:36 ` Zeng Guang
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] KVM: VMX: Update PID-pointer table entry when APIC ID is changed Zeng Guang
2022-01-05 19:13 ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-06 1:44 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-06 14:06 ` Tom Lendacky
2022-01-07 8:05 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-07 8:31 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-01-10 7:45 ` Chao Gao
2022-01-10 22:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-01-13 22:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14 2:58 ` Chao Gao
2022-01-14 8:17 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-01-17 3:17 ` Chao Gao
2022-02-02 23:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-03 20:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-23 6:10 ` Chao Gao
2022-02-23 10:26 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2022-01-14 0:22 ` Yuan Yao
2021-12-31 14:28 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] KVM: VMX: Resize PID-ponter table on demand for IPI virtualization Zeng Guang
2022-01-13 22:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-14 15:59 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-14 16:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-17 15:04 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-18 17:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-19 7:55 ` Zeng Guang
2022-01-20 1:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-24 16:40 ` Zeng Guang
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