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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: William Roche <william.roche@oracle.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org
Cc: peterx@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, philmd@linaro.org,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	imammedo@redhat.com, eduardo@habkost.net,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, wangyanan55@huawei.com,
	zhao1.liu@intel.com, joao.m.martins@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:00:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874e2625-b5e7-4247-994a-9b341abbdceb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48b09647-d2ba-43e5-8e73-16fb4ace6da5@oracle.com>

On 02.12.24 16:41, William Roche wrote:
> Hello David,

Hi,

sorry for reviewing yet, I was rather sick the last 1.5 weeks.

> 
> I've finally tested many page mapping possibilities and tried to
> identify the error injection reaction on these pages to see if mmap()
> can be used to recover the impacted area.
 > I'm using the latest upstream kernel I have for that:> 
6.12.0-rc7.master.20241117.ol9.x86_64
> But I also got similar results with a kernel not supporting
> MADV_DONTNEED, for example: 5.15.0-301.163.5.2.el9uek.x86_64
> 
> 
> Let's start with mapping a file without modifying the mapped area:
> In this case we should have a clean page cache mapped in the process.
> If an error is injected on this page, the kernel doesn't even inform the
> process about the error as the page is replaced (no matter if the
> mapping was shared of not).
> 
> The kernel indicates this situation with the following messages:
> 
> [10759.371701] Injecting memory failure at pfn 0x10d88e
> [10759.374922] Memory failure: 0x10d88e: corrupted page was clean:
> dropped without side effects
> [10759.377525] Memory failure: 0x10d88e: recovery action for clean LRU
> page: Recovered

Right. The reason here is that we can simply allocate a new page and 
load data from disk. No corruption.

> 
> 
> Now when the page content is modified, in the case of standard page
> size, we need to consider a MAP_PRIVATE or MAP_SHARED
> - in the case of a MAP_PRIVATE page, this page is corrupted and the
> modified data are lost, the kernel will use the SIGBUS mechanism to
> inform this process if needed.
>     But remapping the area sweeps away the poisoned page, and allows the
> process to use the area.
> 
> - In the case of a MAP_SHARED page, if the content hasn't been sync'ed
> with the file backend, we also loose the modified data, and the kernel
> can also raise SIGBUS.
>     Remapping the area recreates a page cache from the "on disk" file
> content, clearing the error.

In a mmap(MAP_SHARED, fd) region that will also require fallocate IIUC.

> 
> In both cases, the kernel indicates messages like:
> [41589.578750] Injecting memory failure for pfn 0x122105 at process
> virtual address 0x7f13bad55000
> [41589.582237] Memory failure: 0x122105: Sending SIGBUS to testdh:7343
> due to hardware memory corruption
> [41589.584907] Memory failure: 0x122105: recovery action for dirty LRU
> page: Recovered
 > >
> Now in the case of hugetlbfs pages:
> This case behaves the same way as the standard page size when using
> MAP_PRIVATE: mmap of the underlying file is able to sweep away the
> poisoned page.
> But the MAP_SHARED case is different: mmap() doesn't clear anything.
> fallocate() must be used.

Yes, I recall that is what I initially said. The behavior with 
MAP_SHARED should be consistent between hugetlb and !hugetlb.


> 
> 
> In both cases, the kernel indicates messages like:
> [89141.724295] Injecting memory failure for pfn 0x117800 at process
> virtual address 0x7fd148800000
> [89141.727103] Memory failure: 0x117800: Sending SIGBUS to testdh:9480
> due to hardware memory corruption
> [89141.729829] Memory failure: 0x117800: recovery action for huge page:
> Recovered
> 
> Conclusion:
> We can't count on the mmap() method only for the hugetlbfs case with
> MAP_SHARED.
> 
> So According to these tests results, we should change the part of the

> qemu_ram_remap() function (in the 2nd patch) to something like:
> 
> +                if (ram_block_discard_range(block, offset +
> block->fd_offset,
> +                                            length) != 0) {
> +                    /*
> +                     * Fold back to using mmap(), but it cannot repair a
> +                     * shared hugetlbfs region. In this case we fail.
> +                     */


But why do we special-case hugetlb here? How would mmap(MAP_FIXED) help 
to discard dirty pagecache data in a mmap(MAD_SHARED, fd) mapping?

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-02 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240910090747.2741475-1-william.roche@oracle.com>
2024-09-10 10:02 ` [RFC RESEND 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 1/6] accel/kvm: SIGBUS handler should also deal with si_addr_lsb “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 2/6] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage sizes “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 3/6] system/physmem: Remap memory pages on reset based on the page size “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 4/6] system: Introducing hugetlbfs largepage RAS feature “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 5/6] system/hugetlb_ras: Handle madvise SIGBUS signal on listener “William Roche
2024-09-10 10:02   ` [RFC RESEND 6/6] system/hugetlb_ras: Replay lost BUS_MCEERR_AO signals on VM resume “William Roche
2024-09-10 11:36   ` [RFC RESEND 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 16:24     ` William Roche
2024-09-11 22:07       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-12 17:07         ` William Roche
2024-09-19 16:52           ` William Roche
2024-10-09 15:45             ` Peter Xu
2024-10-10 20:35               ` William Roche
2024-10-22 21:34               ` [PATCH v1 0/4] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes “William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] accel/kvm: SIGBUS handler should also deal with si_addr_lsb “William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage page_size “William Roche
2024-10-23  7:28                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 23:30                     ` William Roche
     [not found]                     ` <9b17600d-4473-4bb6-841f-00f93d86f720@oracle.com>
2024-10-28 16:42                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30  1:56                         ` William Roche
2024-11-04 14:10                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] system/physmem: Largepage punch hole before reset of memory pages “William Roche
2024-10-23  7:30                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-25 23:27                     ` William Roche
2024-10-28 17:01                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-30  1:56                         ` William Roche
2024-11-04 13:30                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                             ` [PATCH v2 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes “William Roche
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 1/7] accel/kvm: Keep track of the HWPoisonPage page_size “William Roche
2024-11-12 10:30                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 21:35                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 2/7] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2024-11-12 11:07                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 22:06                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 3/7] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-11-12 11:13                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 22:22                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-15 21:03                                       ` William Roche
2024-11-18  9:45                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 4/7] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 5/7] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2024-11-12 13:45                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-12 18:17                                   ` William Roche
2024-11-12 22:24                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-11-07 10:21                               ` [PATCH v2 7/7] system/physmem: Memory settings applied on remap notification “William Roche
2024-10-22 21:35                 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-10-28 16:32             ` [RFC RESEND 0/6] hugetlbfs largepage RAS project David Hildenbrand
2024-11-25 14:27         ` [PATCH v3 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 1/7] hwpoison_page_list and qemu_ram_remap are based of pages “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 2/7] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 3/7] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 4/7] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 5/7] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2024-11-25 14:27           ` [PATCH v3 7/7] system/physmem: Memory settings applied on remap notification “William Roche
2024-12-02 15:41           ` [PATCH v3 0/7] hugetlbfs memory HW error fixes William Roche
2024-12-02 16:00             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-12-03  0:15               ` William Roche
2024-12-03 14:08                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-03 14:39                   ` William Roche
2024-12-03 15:00                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-06 18:26                       ` William Roche
2024-12-09 21:25                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-14 13:45         ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Poisoned memory recovery on reboot “William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 1/7] hwpoison_page_list and qemu_ram_remap are based on pages “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:34             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:56               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 13:56                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 2/7] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:44             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:56               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 14:00                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:15                   ` William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 3/7] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 4/7] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 5/7] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:58             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:56               ` William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:51             ` [PATCH v4 6/7] c David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:57               ` [PATCH v4 6/7] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM William Roche
2024-12-14 13:45           ` [PATCH v4 7/7] system/physmem: Memory settings applied on remap notification “William Roche
2025-01-08 21:53             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:57               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 14:01                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-08 21:22           ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Poisoned memory recovery on reboot David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 20:55             ` William Roche
2025-01-10 21:13         ` [PATCH v5 0/6] " “William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 1/6] system/physmem: handle hugetlb correctly in qemu_ram_remap() “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:02             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-28 18:41                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 2/6] system/physmem: poisoned memory discard on reboot “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:07             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 3/6] accel/kvm: Report the loss of a large memory page “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:09             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-28 18:45                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 4/6] numa: Introduce and use ram_block_notify_remap() “William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 5/6] hostmem: Factor out applying settings “William Roche
2025-01-10 21:14           ` [PATCH v5 6/6] hostmem: Handle remapping of RAM “William Roche
2025-01-14 14:11             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16               ` William Roche
2025-01-14 14:12           ` [PATCH v5 0/6] Poisoned memory recovery on reboot David Hildenbrand
2025-01-27 21:16             ` William Roche

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