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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Call for GSoC internship project ideas
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2026 12:02:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874iodonxc.fsf@draig.linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMxuvawgOvQbwoyCzFBLw++JqR0vFbVUhbv1AJWU6VqK1MM_Og@mail.gmail.com> ("Marc-André Lureau"'s message of "Thu, 22 Jan 2026 15:28:24 +0400")

Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com> writes:

> Hi
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 2:57 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 10:54:42AM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2026 at 10:40, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > > Once we have written some scripts that can build gcc, binutils, linux,
>> > > busybox we've opened the door to be able to support every machine type
>> > > on every target, provided there has been a gcc/binutils/linux port at
>> > > some time (which covers practically everything). Adding new machines
>> > > becomes cheap then - just a matter of identifying the Linux Kconfig
>> > > settings, and everything else stays the same. Adding new targets means
>> > > adding a new binutils build target, which should again we relatively
>> > > cheap, and also infrequent. This has potential to be massively more
>> > > sustainable than a reliance on distros, and should put us on a pathway
>> > > that would let us cover almost everything we ship.
>> >
>> > Isn't that essentially reimplementing half of buildroot, or the
>> > system image builder that Rob Landley uses to produce toybox
>> > test images ?
>>
>> If we can use existing tools to achieve this, that's fine.
>>
>
> Imho, both approaches are complementary. Building images from scratch,
> like toybox, to cover esoteric minimal systems. And more complete and
> common OSes with mkosi which allows you to have things like python,
> mesa, networking, systemd, tpm tools, etc for testing.. We don't want
> to build that from scratch, do we?

Well for vkmark it was easier to update the mesa in buildroot for the
latest bits for testing venus than wait for the distros to catch up with
library support.

-- 
Alex Bennée
Virtualisation Tech Lead @ Linaro

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-22 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-05 21:47 Call for GSoC internship project ideas Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-13 15:29 ` Peter Xu
2026-01-13 16:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-13 16:30     ` Peter Xu
     [not found] ` <CAMxuvaz8hm1dc6XdsbK99Ng5sOBNxwWg_-UJdBhyptwgUYjcrw@mail.gmail.com>
2026-01-14 19:26   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-20 21:42     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-20 21:50       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 10:49         ` Thomas Huth
2026-01-22 10:14       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 10:22         ` Marc-André Lureau
2026-01-22 10:39           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 10:54             ` Peter Maydell
2026-01-22 10:57               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 11:28                 ` Marc-André Lureau
2026-01-22 11:40                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 12:02                   ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2026-01-22 15:46                   ` Pierrick Bouvier
2026-01-23  8:44                     ` Marc-André Lureau
2026-01-23 15:56                       ` Pierrick Bouvier
2026-01-26 22:29                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-27  8:34                         ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-01-27 14:19                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-22 10:43         ` Thomas Huth
2026-01-22 10:48           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 11:05             ` Thomas Huth
2026-01-22 11:24               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 11:58               ` Alex Bennée
2026-01-22 19:14           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-22 11:55         ` Alex Bennée
2026-01-20 22:00     ` John Levon
2026-01-20 21:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-22  9:38   ` Modern HMP (was: Call for GSoC internship project ideas) Markus Armbruster
2026-01-22 10:00     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 12:07       ` Modern HMP Markus Armbruster
2026-01-22 12:21         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 13:07           ` Markus Armbruster
2026-01-22 14:03             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-22 15:47           ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-01-22 16:00             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-01-27 11:17               ` Kevin Wolf
2026-02-01 18:29               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2026-02-04  8:08                 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-02-04  9:07                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-02-04  9:44                     ` Markus Armbruster
2026-02-05  1:15                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2026-02-05  6:52                     ` Markus Armbruster
2026-02-05 12:50                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2026-01-27  9:27 ` Call for GSoC internship project ideas Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen
2026-01-27 14:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-01-29 10:46 ` COCONUT-SVSM project ideas for GSoC 2026 Jörg Rödel
2026-01-29 14:18   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-02-04 13:24     ` Jörg Rödel
2026-02-04 16:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-01-28 16:16 Call for GSoC internship project ideas Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-01-29 17:44 ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-02-03  1:42   ` Jamin Lin
2025-02-10 14:55   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-02-10 15:54     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-02-06  9:34 ` Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen
2025-02-06 15:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-02-07 13:57     ` Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen
2025-02-06 15:10   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-02-07 13:58     ` Matias Ezequiel Vara Larsen
2025-02-07 12:35 ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-02-07 13:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2025-02-07 13:48     ` Hanna Czenczek
2025-02-07 13:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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