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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, penberg@kernel.org, marc.zyngier@arm.com,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: virtio-net mq vq initialization (was: [PATCH 0/5] Usual batch of random ARM fixes for kvmtool)
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:06:00 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874nfc9e1r.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <516716B8.9090408@oracle.com>

Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com> writes:
> On 04/11/2013 12:36 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
>> Hello folks,
>> 
>> Here's the latest round of ARM fixes and updates for kvmtool. Most of
>> this is confined to the arm/ subdirectory, with the exception of a fix
>> to the virtio-mmio vq definitions due to the multi-queue work from
>> Sasha. I'm not terribly happy about that code though, since it seriously
>> increases the memory footprint of the guest.
>> 
>> Without multi-queue, we can boot Debian Wheezy to a prompt in 38MB. With
>> the new changes, that increases to 170MB! Any chance we can try and tackle
>> this regression please? I keep getting bitten by the OOM killer :(
>
> (cc Rusty, MST)
>
> The spec defines the operation of a virtio-net device with regards to multiple
> queues as follows:
>
> """
> Device Initialization
>
> 	1. The initialization routine should identify the receive and transmission
> virtqueues, up to N+1 of each kind. If VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ feature
> bit is negotiated, N=max_virtqueue_pairs-1, otherwise identify N=0.
>
> 	[...]
>
> 	5. Only receiveq0, transmitq0 and controlq are used by default. To use more
> queues driver must negotiate the VIRTIO_NET_F_MQ feature; initialize
> up to max_virtqueue_pairs of each of transmit and receive queues; execute_
> VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET command specifying
> the number of the transmit and receive queues that is going to be
> used and wait until the device consumes the controlq buffer and acks this
> command.
> """
>
> And kvmtool follows that to the letter: It will initialize the maximum amount of
> queues it can support during initialization and will start using them only when
> the device tells it it should use them.
>
> As Will has stated, this causes a memory issue since all the data structures that hold
> all possible queues get initialized regardless of whether we actually need them or not,
> which is quite troublesome for systems with small RAM.
>
>
> Rusty, MST, would you be open to a spec and code change that would initialize the
> RX/TX vqs on demand instead of on device initialization? Or is there an easier way
> to work around this issue?

I'm confused.  kvmtool is using too much memory, or the guest?  If
kvmtool, the Device Initialization section above applies to the driver,
not the device.  If the guest, well, the language says "UP TO N+1".  You
want a small guest, don't use them all.  Or any...

What am I missing?
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-12 11:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-11 16:36 [PATCH 0/5] Usual batch of random ARM fixes for kvmtool Will Deacon
2013-04-11 16:36 ` [PATCH 1/5] kvm tools: arm: don't crash when no compatible CPU is found Will Deacon
2013-04-11 16:36 ` [PATCH 2/5] kvm tools: arm: add CPU compatible string to target structure Will Deacon
2013-04-11 16:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] kvm tools: arm: consolidate CPU node generation Will Deacon
2013-04-11 16:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] kvm tools: arm64: add support for AEM and Foundation models Will Deacon
2013-04-11 16:36 ` [PATCH 5/5] kvm tools: bump number of virtio MMIO vqueues Will Deacon
2013-04-11 16:45 ` [PATCH 0/5] Usual batch of random ARM fixes for kvmtool Sasha Levin
2013-04-12  6:52   ` Pekka Enberg
2013-04-12  8:30     ` Marc Zyngier
2013-04-12  8:50       ` Will Deacon
2013-04-11 20:02 ` virtio-net mq vq initialization (was: [PATCH 0/5] Usual batch of random ARM fixes for kvmtool) Sasha Levin
2013-04-12 11:36   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2013-04-12 12:41     ` Will Deacon
2013-04-14 10:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-13 21:23     ` virtio-net mq vq initialization Sasha Levin
2013-04-14 10:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 15:16         ` Sasha Levin
2013-04-14 15:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 15:59             ` Sasha Levin
2013-04-14 18:35               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15  2:55                 ` Rusty Russell
2013-04-15  5:58           ` Jason Wang
2013-04-22 18:32             ` Sasha Levin
2013-04-12  7:12 ` [PATCH 0/5] Usual batch of random ARM fixes for kvmtool Pekka Enberg

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