From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"Shaoqin Huang" <shahuang@redhat.com>,
"Eric Auger" <eauger@redhat.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Laurent Vivier" <lvivier@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Sebastian Ott" <sebott@redhat.com>,
"Gavin Shan" <gshan@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
"Dapeng Mi" <dapeng1.mi@intel.com>, "Yi Lai" <yi1.lai@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] qapi/qom: Introduce kvm-pmu-filter object
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 10:17:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fri8o70b.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z/i3+l3uQ3dTjnHT@intel.com> (Zhao Liu's message of "Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:34:34 +0800")
Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 06:38:35AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 06:38:35 +0200
>> From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] qapi/qom: Introduce kvm-pmu-filter object
>>
>> Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> writes:
>>
>> > Hi Markus
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 04:21:01PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> >> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 16:21:01 +0200
>> >> From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] qapi/qom: Introduce kvm-pmu-filter object
>> >>
>> >> Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Introduce the kvm-pmu-filter object and support the PMU event with raw
>> >> > format.
>> >>
>> >> Remind me, what does the kvm-pmu-filter object do, and why would we
>> >> want to use it?
>> >
>> > KVM PMU filter allows user space to set PMU event whitelist / blacklist
>> > for Guest. Both ARM and x86's KVMs accept a list of PMU events, and x86
>> > also accpets other formats & fixed counter field.
>>
>> But what does the system *do* with these event lists?
>
> This is for security purposes, and can restrict Guest users from
> accessing certain sensitive hardware information on the Host via perf or
> PMU counter.
>
> When a PMU event is blocked by KVM, Guest users can't get the
> corresponding event count via perf/PMU counter.
>
> EMM, if ‘system’ refers to the QEMU part, then QEMU is responsible
> for checking the format and passing the list to KVM.
>
> Thanks,
> Zhao
This helped some, thanks. To make sure I got it:
KVM can restrict the guest's access to the PMU. This is either a
whitelist (guest can access exactly what's on this list), or a blacklist
(guest can access exactly what's not this list).
QEMU's kvm-pmu-filter object provides an interface to this KVM feature.
KVM takes "raw" list entries: an entry is a number, and the number's
meaning depends on the architecture. The kvm-pmu-filter object can take
such entries, and passes them to straight to KVM.
On x86, we commonly use two slightly higher level formats: select &
umask, and masked. The kvm-pmu-filter object can take entries in either
format, and maps them to "raw".
Correct?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-16 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-09 8:26 [PATCH 0/5] accel/kvm: Support KVM PMU filter Zhao Liu
2025-04-09 8:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] qapi/qom: Introduce kvm-pmu-filter object Zhao Liu
2025-04-10 14:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-11 4:03 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-11 4:38 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-11 6:34 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-16 8:17 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2025-04-24 6:33 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-25 10:35 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-04-27 7:26 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-24 12:18 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-24 15:34 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-25 9:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-09 8:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] i386/kvm: Support basic KVM PMU filter Zhao Liu
2025-04-25 9:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-27 8:34 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-28 6:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-28 14:12 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-09 8:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] i386/kvm: Support event with select & umask format in " Zhao Liu
2025-04-25 9:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-27 6:49 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-28 7:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-28 14:42 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-28 16:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-29 6:24 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-09 8:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] i386/kvm: Support event with masked entry " Zhao Liu
2025-04-25 9:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2025-04-09 8:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] i386/kvm: Support fixed counter " Zhao Liu
2025-04-24 8:17 ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-04-24 15:35 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-25 10:32 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-04-27 7:35 ` Zhao Liu
2025-04-15 7:49 ` [PATCH 0/5] accel/kvm: Support " Shaoqin Huang
2025-04-15 9:59 ` Zhao Liu
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