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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	graf@amazon.com, iaslan@amazon.de, pdurrant@amazon.com,
	aagch@amazon.com, fandree@amazon.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/17] KVM: x86/xen: fix Xen hypercall page msr handling
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:10:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r1nruv5t.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7fa66c23d2758860d6b8012014faf977d03b140b.camel@infradead.org>

David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> writes:

> On Mon, 2020-12-14 at 23:22 +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> > Can you define kvm_hv_msr_enabled()?
>> > 
>> > Note kvm_hv_hypercall_enabled() is based on a value that gets written
>> > through the MSR, so it can't be that.
>> 
>> When Hyper-V emulation appeared in KVM we (unfortunately) didn't add a
>> capability to globaly enable and disable it so to be backwards
>> compatible we'll have to define kvm_emulating_hyperv() as 'true' for
>> now as that's how KVM behaves. This, however, doesn't mean we can't add
>> e.g. a module parameter to disable Hyper-V emulation. Also, we can
>> probably check guest CPUIDs and if Hyper-V's signature wasn't set we can
>> return 'false'.
>> 
>> <rant>
>> Having Hyper-V emulation in KVM 'always enabled' may not be a big deal
>> from functional point of view but may not be ideal from security
>> standpoint as bugs in arch/x86/kvm/hyperv.c become exploitable even from
>> Linux guests.
>> </rant>
>
> Indeed. And yet it can coexist with Xen support too, so it isn't even
> as simple as turning it off when Xen is enabled.
>
> Which is why I ended up just using Joao's patch unchanged. Short of
> going back in time to make Hyper-V support conditional when it was
> first introduced, I couldn't see a better answer.
>
> And regardless of the Hyper-V mess, what this patch does for Xen is
> precisely what you suggest: handle it first, before the switch(), *if*
> the Xen MSR is enabled.

Functionally I have no complaints, even with the suggested
'generalization' we'll be handling MSRs in the exact same sequence. You
are, however, right calling Hyper-V mess 'mess' and if we want to make
things cleaner we should probably start there (goes to my to-do
list...).

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-15 12:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-14  8:38 [PATCH v3 00/17] KVM: Add minimal support for Xen HVM guests David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] KVM: Fix arguments to kvm_{un,}map_gfn() David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 21:13   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-14 21:21     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 21:41       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-14 21:45         ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-15 12:07           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-15 12:45             ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] KVM: x86/xen: fix Xen hypercall page msr handling David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 21:27   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-14 21:35     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 21:44       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-14 21:48         ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 22:22           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2020-12-14 22:41             ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-15 12:10               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2020-12-23  8:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] KVM: x86/xen: intercept xen hypercalls if enabled David Woodhouse
2020-12-23  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-23 10:51     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] KVM: x86/xen: Fix coexistence of Xen and Hyper-V hypercalls David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] KVM: x86/xen: add KVM_XEN_HVM_SET_ATTR/KVM_XEN_HVM_GET_ATTR David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] KVM: x86/xen: latch long_mode when hypercall page is set up David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] KVM: x86/xen: add definitions of compat_shared_info, compat_vcpu_info David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] KVM: x86/xen: register shared_info page David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 10:45   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 11:30     ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 12:04       ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 12:02     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 12:53       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 15:05         ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] xen: add wc_sec_hi to struct shared_info David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] KVM: x86/xen: update wallclock region David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] KVM: x86/xen: register vcpu info David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 10:48   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14  8:39 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] KVM: x86/xen: setup pvclock updates David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 13:29   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 14:58     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 15:20       ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 15:40         ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:39 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] KVM: x86/xen: register vcpu time info region David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 10:55   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 12:03     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:39 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] KVM: x86/xen: register runstate info David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 11:10   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 15:47     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:39 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] KVM: x86: declare Xen HVM shared info capability and add test case David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:39 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] KVM: Add documentation for Xen hypercall and shared_info updates David Woodhouse
2020-12-14  8:39 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] KVM: x86/xen: Add event channel interrupt vector upcall David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 13:19   ` Joao Martins
2020-12-14 13:32     ` Durrant, Paul
2020-12-14 14:57     ` David Woodhouse
2020-12-14 15:13       ` Joao Martins

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