From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>, "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
"KVM devel mailing list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
qemu-ppc <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
"Alon Levy" <alevy@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes 2013-01-29 - Port I/O
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:29:58 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4l260kp.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51095049.7090407@suse.de>
Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> writes:
> Am 30.01.2013 17:33, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>> Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>>>> hw/qxl.c: portio_list_add(qxl_vga_port_list,
>>>> pci_address_space_io(dev), 0x3b0);
>>>> hw/vga.c: portio_list_add(vga_port_list, address_space_io, 0x3b0);
>>>
>>> That reminds me I should solve this in a more elegant way.
>>>
>>> qxl takes over the vga io ports. The reason it does this is because qxl
>>> switches into vga mode in case the vga ports are accessed while not in
>>> vga mode. After doing the check (and possibly switching mode) the vga
>>> handler is called to actually handle it.
>>
>> The best way to handle this would be to remodel how we do VGA.
>>
>> Make VGACommonState a proper QOM object and use it as the base class for
>> QXL, CirrusVGA, QEMUVGA (std-vga), and VMwareVGA.
>
> That would require polymorphism since we already need to derive from
> PCIDevice or ISADevice respectively for interfacing with the bus...
Nope. You can use composition:
QXLDevice is-a VGACommonState
QXLPCI is-a PCIDevice
has-a QXLDevice
> Modern object-oriented languages have tried to avoid multi-inheritence
> due to arising complications, I thought. Wouldn't object if someone
> wanted to do the dirty implementation work though. ;)
There is no need for MI.
> Another such example is EHCI, with PCIDevice and SysBusDevice frontends,
> sharing an EHCIState struct and having helper functions operating on
> that core state only. Quite a few device share such a pattern today
> actually (serial, m48t59, ...).
Yes, this is all about chipset modelling. Chipsets should derive from
device and then be embedded in the appropriate bus device.
For instance.
SerialState is-a DeviceState
ISASerialState is-a ISADevice, has-a SerialState
MMIOSerialState is-a SysbusDevice, has-a SerialState
This is what we're doing in practice, we just aren't modeling the
chipsets and we're open coding the relationships (often in subtley
different ways).
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>> The VGA accessors should be exposed as a memory region but the sub class
>> ought to be responsible for actually adding it to a subregion.
>>
>>>
>>> That twist makes it a bit hard to convert vga ...
>>>
>>> Anyone knows how one would do that with the memory api instead? I think
>>> taking over the ports is easy as the memory regions have priorities so I
>>> can simply register a region with higher priority. I have no clue how to
>>> forward the access to the vga code though.
>>>
>>
>> That should be possible with priorities, but I think it's wrong. There
>> aren't two VGA devices. QXL is-a VGA device and the best way to
>> override behavior of base VGA device is through polymorphism.
>
> In this particular case QXL is-a PCI VGA device though, so we can
> decouple it from core VGA modeling. Placing the MemoryRegionOps inside
> the Class (rather than static const) might be a short-term solution for
> overriding read/write handlers of a particular VGA MemoryRegion. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Andreas
>
>> This isn't really a memory API issue, it's a modeling issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anthony Liguori
>>
>>> Anyone has clues / suggestions?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Gerd
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-30 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-29 15:41 KVM call minutes 2013-01-29 Juan Quintela
2013-01-29 16:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-29 16:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-29 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-29 20:53 ` Alexander Graf
2013-01-29 21:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 7:02 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? (was: KVM call minutes 2013-01-29) Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 8:39 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 10:36 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? (was: KVM call minutes 2013-01-29) Peter Maydell
2013-01-30 12:35 ` What to do about non-qdevified devices? Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 13:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-30 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-31 18:48 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 11:39 ` [Qemu-devel] KVM call minutes 2013-01-29 - Port I/O Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 11:48 ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-30 12:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 13:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 12:32 ` Alexander Graf
2013-01-30 13:09 ` Markus Armbruster
2013-01-30 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 17:55 ` Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 20:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 20:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 20:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 13:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 21:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 22:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 22:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 22:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 23:02 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 23:28 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 10:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 16:34 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 21:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 21:21 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 22:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 21:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-31 22:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-31 23:25 ` Alex Williamson
2013-01-31 21:22 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-31 22:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 15:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2013-01-30 16:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 16:54 ` Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 17:29 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-01-30 20:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-01-30 20:19 ` Peter Maydell
2013-01-30 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andreas Färber
2013-01-30 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-01-30 21:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2013-01-30 17:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-30 21:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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