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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Xin Li <xin3.li@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, peterz@infradead.org, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, ravi.v.shankar@intel.com,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, shan.kang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 05/33] x86/traps: add external_interrupt() to dispatch external interrupts
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2023 13:56:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttvm6s2v.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230410081438.1750-6-xin3.li@intel.com>

On Mon, Apr 10 2023 at 01:14, Xin Li wrote:
> Add external_interrupt() to dispatch external interrupts to their handlers.
>
> If an external interrupt is a system interrupt, dipatch it through
> system_interrupt_handlers table, otherwise to
> dispatch_common_interrupt().

This naming convention sucks. external interrupts which can be system
interrupts. Come on.

> +/*
> + * External interrupt dispatch function.
> + *
> + * Until/unless dispatch_common_interrupt() can be taught to deal with the
> + * special system vectors, split the dispatch.

More gibberish. It's not useful to add your sloppy personal notes which
are not understandable for anyone else. That comment might eventually
make some sense right in the code where the condition is.

> + * Note: dispatch_common_interrupt() already deals with IRQ_MOVE_CLEANUP_VECTOR.
> + */
> +int external_interrupt(struct pt_regs *regs)
> +{
> +	unsigned int vector = regs->vector;
> +	unsigned int sysvec = vector - FIRST_SYSTEM_VECTOR;
> +
> +	if (vector < FIRST_EXTERNAL_VECTOR) {

unlikely(...)

> +		pr_err("invalid external interrupt vector %d\n", vector);
> +		return -EINVAL;
> +	}
> +
> +	if (sysvec < NR_SYSTEM_VECTORS)
> +		system_interrupt_handlers[sysvec](regs);
> +	else
> +		dispatch_common_interrupt(regs, vector);

How is this supposed to work once the vector space gets extended in a
later version of FRED?

Can we please think about this _now_ and not rewrite all of this two
years down the road? 

Even if that's not fully specified yet, here is the obvious question:

 What are we going to do with the system vectors. Are they going to
 stay just in the middle of the expanded vector space?

That would be completely non-sensical as we'd end up with yet another
segmentation of the vector space.

So the obvious solution is to segment the vector space in the following
way:

  0  - 31   Exceptions/traps        - Cannot be moved
 32         IRQ_MOVE_CLEANUP_VECTOR
 33  - X    System vectors including APIC_SPURIOUS
 X+1 - MAX  External interrupts

This spares the IRQ_MOVE_CLEANUP_VECTOR hackery. It requires to move the
ISA vectors, but that's not rocket science.

That makes the external interrupt vector space trivially expandable, no?

Coming back to that comment:

> + * Until/unless dispatch_common_interrupt() can be taught to deal with the
> + * special system vectors, split the dispatch.

That's simply wishful thinking. Because all what this would achieve is
moving the condition and table lookup into dispatch_common_interrupt().

What's the win aside of convoluted code?

There are only two options to deal with that:

    1) Have the condition in external_interrupt()

       if (unlikely(vector < LEGACY_MAX_EXCEPTION_VECTORS))
            yell_and_bail();

       if (vector < FIRST_DEVICE_VECTOR)
            sysvec_handler[vector](regs)
       else
            fred_common_interrupt(regs, vector);

    2) Make the sysvec_handler[] fred wrapper functions take the vector
       argument and allocate the sysvec_handler[] array dynamically
       sized based on the maximum number of supported vectors in a
       particular [FRED]APIC implementation.

       Not sure whether that's worth it as FRED allows up to 64k vectors
       if I understand the reserved space layout in the spec correctly
       and that would cost 512k memory just for the table.

Why has all of the above not been thought through and addressed _before_
posting this pile?

<Kernel development educational template #11>

  1) Implementing a Prove of Concept for early validation is perfectly
     fine.

  2) Trying to sell that PoC upstream by polishing it a bit is doomed.

  3) The proper tools for upstream development are brain and taste, not
     duct tape and stapler.

</Kernel development educational template #11>

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-10  8:14 [PATCH v8 00/33] x86: enable FRED for x86-64 Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 01/33] x86/traps: let common_interrupt() handle IRQ_MOVE_CLEANUP_VECTOR Xin Li
2023-05-07 11:59   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-03 19:19     ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-03 20:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 17:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 17:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-06 20:09         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-06 23:16           ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-19  8:00           ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-19 14:22             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-19 18:47               ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-19 19:16                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-20  0:04                   ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 02/33] x86/fred: make unions for the cs and ss fields in struct pt_regs Xin Li
2023-06-03  9:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-06-05 12:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 17:12     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-05 17:29       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 03/33] x86/traps: add a system interrupt table for system interrupt dispatch Xin Li
2023-06-05  8:34   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-06  8:05     ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-05  8:38   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05  8:39   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 04/33] x86/traps: add install_system_interrupt_handler() Xin Li
2023-06-05  8:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-06  5:46     ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 05/33] x86/traps: add external_interrupt() to dispatch external interrupts Xin Li
2023-06-05 11:56   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-06-05 17:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-19 19:16     ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-19 21:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-20  0:16         ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 06/33] x86/cpufeature: add the cpu feature bit for FRED Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 07/33] x86/opcode: add ERETU, ERETS instructions to x86-opcode-map Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 08/33] x86/objtool: teach objtool about ERETU and ERETS Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 09/33] x86/cpu: add X86_CR4_FRED macro Xin Li
2023-06-05 12:01   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 17:06     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-05 17:19     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 10/33] x86/fred: add Kconfig option for FRED (CONFIG_X86_FRED) Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 11/33] x86/fred: if CONFIG_X86_FRED is disabled, disable FRED support Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 12/33] x86/cpu: add MSR numbers for FRED configuration Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 13/33] x86/fred: header file for event types Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 14/33] x86/fred: header file with FRED definitions Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 15/33] x86/fred: reserve space for the FRED stack frame Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 16/33] x86/fred: add a page fault entry stub for FRED Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 17/33] x86/fred: add a debug " Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 18/33] x86/fred: add a NMI " Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 19/33] x86/fred: add a machine check " Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 20/33] x86/fred: FRED entry/exit and dispatch code Xin Li
2023-06-05 13:21   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 21/33] x86/fred: FRED initialization code Xin Li
2023-06-05 12:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 13:41   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 22/33] x86/fred: update MSR_IA32_FRED_RSP0 during task switch Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 23/33] x86/fred: let ret_from_fork() jmp to fred_exit_user when FRED is enabled Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 24/33] x86/fred: disallow the swapgs instruction " Xin Li
2023-06-05 13:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 25/33] x86/fred: no ESPFIX needed " Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 26/33] x86/fred: allow single-step trap and NMI when starting a new thread Xin Li
2023-06-05 13:50   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 13:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 27/33] x86/fred: fixup fault on ERETU by jumping to fred_entrypoint_user Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 28/33] x86/ia32: do not modify the DPL bits for a null selector Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 29/33] x86/fred: allow FRED systems to use interrupt vectors 0x10-0x1f Xin Li
2023-06-05 14:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 16:55     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 30/33] x86/fred: allow dynamic stack frame size Xin Li
2023-06-05 14:11   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-06  6:18     ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-06 13:27       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-06 23:08         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 31/33] x86/fred: BUG() when ERETU with %rsp not equal to that when the ring 3 event was just delivered Xin Li
2023-06-05 14:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 16:42     ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-05 17:16       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 32/33] x86/fred: disable FRED by default in its early stage Xin Li
2023-04-10  8:14 ` [PATCH v8 33/33] KVM: x86/vmx: refactor VMX_DO_EVENT_IRQOFF to generate FRED stack frames Xin Li
2023-04-10 21:50   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-11  5:06     ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-11 18:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-11 22:50         ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-12 18:26     ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-12 19:37       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-10 18:37 ` [PATCH v8 00/33] x86: enable FRED for x86-64 Dave Hansen
2023-04-10 19:14   ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-10 19:32     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-04-10 19:38       ` Dave Hansen
2023-04-10 20:52         ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-11  4:14       ` Li, Xin3
2023-04-10 18:49 ` Dave Hansen
2023-04-10 19:16   ` Li, Xin3
2023-06-05 17:11     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 17:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-06-05 17:32   ` Thomas Gleixner

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