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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Durrant, Paul" <pdurrant@amazon.co.uk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Allister, Jack" <jalliste@amazon.com>
Cc: "bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"diapop@amazon.co.uk" <diapop@amazon.co.uk>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"jmattson@google.com" <jmattson@google.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"metikaya@amazon.co.uk" <metikaya@amazon.co.uk>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"rkrcmar@redhat.com" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"sean.j.christopherson@intel.com"
	<sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"wanpengli@tencent.com" <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ...\n
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:57:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tu94olyd.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <307f19cc-322e-c900-2894-22bdee1e248a@redhat.com>

Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> writes:

> On 5/31/22 16:52, Durrant, Paul wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>>> Sent: 31 May 2022 15:44
>>> To: Allister, Jack <jalliste@amazon.com>
>>> Cc: bp@alien8.de; diapop@amazon.co.uk; hpa@zytor.com; jmattson@google.com; joro@8bytes.org;
>>> kvm@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; metikaya@amazon.co.uk; mingo@redhat.com;
>>> pbonzini@redhat.com; rkrcmar@redhat.com; sean.j.christopherson@intel.com; tglx@linutronix.de;
>>> vkuznets@redhat.com; wanpengli@tencent.com; x86@kernel.org
>>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]...\n
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 02:02:36PM +0000, Jack Allister wrote:
>>>> The reasoning behind this is that you may want to run a guest at a
>>>> lower CPU frequency for the purposes of trying to match performance
>>>> parity between a host of an older CPU type to a newer faster one.
>>>
>>> That's quite ludicrus. Also, then it should be the host enforcing the
>>> cpufreq, not the guest.
>> 
>> I'll bite... What's ludicrous about wanting to run a guest at a lower CPU freq to minimize observable change in whatever workload it is running?
>
> Well, the right API is cpufreq, there's no need to make it a KVM 
> functionality.

KVM may probably use the cpufreq API to run each vCPU at the desired
frequency: I don't quite see how this can be done with a VMM today when
it's not a 1-vCPU-per-1-pCPU setup.

-- 
Vitaly


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-01  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-31 10:59 [PATCH] KVM: VMX: CPU frequency scaling for intel x86_64 KVM guests Jack Allister
2022-05-31 11:43 ` Metin Kaya
2022-05-31 18:11   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-06-01 12:55     ` David Woodhouse
2022-05-31 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-31 14:02   ` ...\n Jack Allister
2022-05-31 14:44     ` ...\n Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-31 14:52       ` ...\n Durrant, Paul
2022-05-31 15:51         ` ...\n Paolo Bonzini
2022-06-01  7:57           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2022-06-01  8:59             ` ...\n Paolo Bonzini
2022-06-01 10:19               ` ...\n Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-01  6:52         ` ...\n Peter Zijlstra
2022-06-01  8:03           ` ...\n Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-06-01  8:25             ` ...\n Christophe de Dinechin
2022-06-01  8:54             ` ...\n Durrant, Paul
2022-06-01  8:57               ` ...\n Paolo Bonzini
2022-06-01  9:20                 ` ...\n Durrant, Paul
2022-06-01  9:43           ` ...\n Amit Shah
2022-06-01 13:14           ` ...\n David Woodhouse
2022-05-31 14:52       ` ...\n Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-31 15:27         ` ...\n Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-31 15:01 ` [PATCH] KVM: VMX: CPU frequency scaling for intel x86_64 KVM guests Vitaly Kuznetsov

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