From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 00/36] KVM: x86: eVMCS rework
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 19:19:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v8qevs6k.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ywe/j3fqfj9qJgEV@google.com>
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2022, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
>> Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> writes:
>>
>> > This is what I ended up with as a way to dig ourselves out of the eVMCS
>> > conundrum. Not well tested, though KUT and selftests pass. The enforcement
>> > added by "KVM: nVMX: Enforce unsupported eVMCS in VMX MSRs for host accesses"
>> > is not tested at all (and lacks a changelog).
>>
>> Trying to enable KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS2 in its new shape in
>> QEMU so I can test it and I immediately stumble upon
>>
>> ~/qemu/build/qemu-system-x86_64 -machine q35,accel=kvm,kernel-irqchip=split -cpu host,hv-evmcs-2022,hv-evmcs,hv-vpindex,hv-vapic
>> qemu-system-x86_64: error: failed to set MSR 0x48d to 0xff00000016
>> qemu-system-x86_64: ../target/i386/kvm/kvm.c:3107: kvm_buf_set_msrs: Assertion `ret == cpu->kvm_msr_buf->nmsrs' failed.
>>
>> Turns out, at least with "-cpu host" QEMU reads VMX feature MSRs first
>> and enables eVMCS after.
>
> Heh, of course there had to be a corner case.
>
Unfortunatelly, it's not a corner case, named CPU models in QEMU behave
exactly the same (I've just forgotten to add '+vmx' yesterday). In fact,
it seems QEMU uses system-wide KVM_GET_MSRS (which results in
vmx_get_msr_feature() for our case) which gives unfiltered values. As it
is system wide it just can't filter anything. This happens even before
KVM_CREATE_VCPU is called so switching to per-vCPU ioctl is not an
option. What's worse is that all the discovered features (including VMX
features) are passed to upper layers of the virtualization stack,
starting with libvirt and upper layers may want to enable some of the
"available" features explicitly. Teaching everyone what's available with
eVMCS and what's not seems to be a hard task.
This use-case can probably be solved by making eVMCS enablement a per-VM
thing (already did locally) and creating a per-VM version of
KVM_GET_MSRS which will give us filtered VMX MSRs when eVMCS was
enabled.
Note: silently filtering out features when vCPUs are created is bad as
the list of such features will change over time. This is guaranteed to
break migrations.
Honestly I'm starting to think the 'evmcs revisions' idea (to keep
the exact list of features in KVM and update them every couple years
when new Hyper-V releases) is easier. It's just a list, it doesn't
require much. The main downside, as was already named, is that userspace
VMM doesn't see which VMX features are actually passed to the guest
unless it is also taught about these "evmcs revisions" (more than what's
the latest number available). This, to certain extent, can probably be
solved by VMM itself by doing KVM_GET_MSRS after vCPU is created (this
won't help much with feature discovery by upper layers, tough). This,
however, is a new use-case, unsupported with the current
KVM_CAP_HYPERV_ENLIGHTENED_VMCS implementation.
eVMCS seems to be special in a way that a) it evolves over time b) it is
mutually exclusive with *some* other features but the list changes. We
don't seem to have anything like that in KVM/QEMU, thus all the
confusion.
--
Vitaly
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-26 17:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-24 3:01 [RFC PATCH v6 00/36] KVM: x86: eVMCS rework Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/36] x86/hyperv: Fix 'struct hv_enlightened_vmcs' definition Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/36] x86/hyperv: Update " Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/36] KVM: x86: Zero out entire Hyper-V CPUID cache before processing entries Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/36] KVM: x86: Check for existing Hyper-V vCPU in kvm_hv_vcpu_init() Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/36] KVM: x86: Report error when setting CPUID if Hyper-V allocation fails Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/36] KVM: nVMX: Treat eVMCS as enabled for guest iff Hyper-V is also enabled Sean Christopherson
2022-08-25 10:21 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-25 14:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/36] KVM: nVMX: Refactor unsupported eVMCS controls logic to use 2-d array Sean Christopherson
2022-08-25 10:24 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/36] KVM: nVMX: Use CC() macro to handle eVMCS unsupported controls checks Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/36] KVM: nVMX: Enforce unsupported eVMCS in VMX MSRs for host accesses Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/36] KVM: VMX: Define VMCS-to-EVMCS conversion for the new fields Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/36] KVM: nVMX: Support several new fields in eVMCSv1 Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 12/36] KVM: x86: hyper-v: Cache HYPERV_CPUID_NESTED_FEATURES CPUID leaf Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 13/36] KVM: selftests: Add ENCLS_EXITING_BITMAP{,HIGH} VMCS fields Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 14/36] KVM: selftests: Switch to updated eVMCSv1 definition Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 15/36] KVM: nVMX: WARN once and fail VM-Enter if eVMCS sees VMFUNC[63:32] != 0 Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 16/36] KVM: nVMX: Support PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL with enlightened VMCS Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 17/36] KVM: nVMX: Support TSC scaling " Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 18/36] KVM: selftests: Enable TSC scaling in evmcs selftest Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 19/36] KVM: VMX: Get rid of eVMCS specific VMX controls sanitization Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 20/36] KVM: nVMX: Don't propagate vmcs12's PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL settings to vmcs02 Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 21/36] KVM: nVMX: Always emulate PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL VM-Entry/VM-Exit controls Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 22/36] KVM: VMX: Check VM_ENTRY_IA32E_MODE in setup_vmcs_config() Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 23/36] KVM: VMX: Check CPU_BASED_{INTR,NMI}_WINDOW_EXITING " Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 24/36] KVM: VMX: Tweak the special handling of SECONDARY_EXEC_ENCLS_EXITING " Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 25/36] KVM: VMX: Don't toggle VM_ENTRY_IA32E_MODE for 32-bit kernels/KVM Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 26/36] KVM: VMX: Extend VMX controls macro shenanigans Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 27/36] KVM: VMX: Move CPU_BASED_CR8_{LOAD,STORE}_EXITING filtering out of setup_vmcs_config() Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 28/36] KVM: VMX: Add missing VMEXIT controls to vmcs_config Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 29/36] KVM: VMX: Add missing CPU based VM execution " Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 30/36] KVM: VMX: Adjust CR3/INVPLG interception for EPT=y at runtime, not setup Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 31/36] KVM: x86: VMX: Replace some Intel model numbers with mnemonics Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 32/36] KVM: VMX: Move LOAD_IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL errata handling out of setup_vmcs_config() Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 33/36] KVM: nVMX: Always set required-1 bits of pinbased_ctls to PIN_BASED_ALWAYSON_WITHOUT_TRUE_MSR Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 34/36] KVM: nVMX: Use sanitized allowed-1 bits for VMX control MSRs Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 35/36] KVM: VMX: Cache MSR_IA32_VMX_MISC in vmcs_config Sean Christopherson
2022-08-24 3:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 36/36] KVM: nVMX: Use cached host MSR_IA32_VMX_MISC value for setting up nested MSR Sean Christopherson
2022-08-25 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/36] KVM: x86: eVMCS rework Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-25 18:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-26 17:19 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2022-08-27 14:03 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2022-08-29 15:54 ` Sean Christopherson
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