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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Hoff <christian.hoff@de.ibm.com>,
	BORNTRAE@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Pe: [PATCH v5 1/3] virtio-scsi: first version
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:11:03 +1030	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vcnbd3hs.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329077777.21613.60.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com>

On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:16:17 -0600, James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 10:25 +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > On 02/08/2012 02:37 PM, Christian Hoff wrote:
> > > Again, I have already done much testing with virtio-scsi and can confirm
> > > that the code is working flawlessly. In my opinion, virtio-scsi is a
> > > worthwhile addition to virtio-block and should be considered for inclusion
> > > into mainline kernel code.
> > 
> > Thank you very much!
> > 
> > James, will you include virtio-scsi in 3.4?
> 
> Well, no-one's yet answered the question I had about why.  virtio-scsi
> seems to be a basic duplication of virtio-blk except that it seems to
> fix some problems virtio-blk has.  Namely queue parameter discover,
> which virtio-blk doesn't seem to do.  There may also be a reason to cut
> the stack lower down.  Error handling is most often cited for this, but
> no-one's satisfactorily explaned why it's better to do error handling in
> the guest instead of the host.
> 
> Could someone please explain to me why you can't simply fix virtio-blk?
> Or would virtio-blk maintainers give a reason why they're unwilling to
> have it fixed?

My concern is simple: virtio_blk covers the 99% of cases, with very
little complexity.  To get that last 1%, we will end up re-specing much
of SCSI.

Having found someone who understand SCSI and is eager to maintain a
driver and spec, I am deeply tempted to partition the problem as simple
== virtio_blk, complex == virtio_scsi.

In fact, it would allow us to tighten the spec on VIRTIO_BLK_T_SCSI_CMD
to its actual use, which AFAICT is CDROMEJECT (maybe CDROMCLOSETRAY).

Cheers,
Rusty.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-12 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-06  9:51 Pe: [PATCH v5 1/3] virtio-scsi: first version Christian Hoff
2012-02-07  9:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 11:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-07 11:26     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 11:56   ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-02-07 12:31     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-07 13:18       ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-02-07 13:59         ` Christian Hoff
2012-02-07 14:28           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-08 13:37             ` Christian Hoff
2012-02-09  9:25               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-09 12:18                 ` Christian Hoff
2012-02-12 20:16                 ` James Bottomley
2012-02-12 23:41                   ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2012-02-13  7:05                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2012-02-13  7:57                     ` Dor Laor
2012-02-13 12:40                       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-02-13 12:54                         ` Dor Laor
2012-02-13 13:00                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-13 13:13                             ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 13:17                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-13 13:18                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-13 15:12                                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2012-02-13 20:42                                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 20:53                                     ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 22:59                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-13 23:30                                         ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-13 23:33                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-14  0:49                                             ` ronnie sahlberg
2012-02-14  1:11                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-02-14  9:57                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-13 11:08                     ` Bart Van Assche
2012-02-13  9:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-02-14  0:07                     ` Rusty Russell

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