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From: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
To: pmorel@linux.ibm.com, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	cohuck@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 21/21] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 09:26:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89f903ad-259a-41d3-ba6a-218d2c277ffb@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0580735b-8813-f860-a2ac-654d82203b35@linux.ibm.com>

On 07/09/2018 11:21 AM, Pierre Morel wrote:
> On 03/07/2018 01:10, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/29/2018 11:11 PM, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>> This patch provides documentation describing the AP architecture and
>>> design concepts behind the virtualization of AP devices. It also
>>> includes an example of how to configure AP devices for exclusive
>>> use of KVM guests.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
>>
>> I don't like the design of external interfaces except for:
>> * cpu model features, and
>> * reset handling.
>>
>> In particular:
>>
>>
> ...snip...
>
>> 4) If I were to act out the role of the administrator, I would prefer 
>> to think of
>> specifying or changing the access controls of a guest in respect to 
>> AP (that is
>> setting the AP matrix) as a single atomic operation -- which either 
>> succeeds or fails.
>>
>> The operation should succeed for any valid configuration, and fail 
>> for any invalid
>> on.
>>
>> The current piecemeal approach seems even less fitting if we consider 
>> changing the
>> access controls of a running guest. AFAIK changing access controls 
>> for a running
>> guest is possible, and I don't see a reason why should we 
>> artificially prohibit this.
>>
>> I think the current sysfs interface for manipulating the matrix is 
>> good for
>> manual playing around, but I would prefer having an interface that is 
>> better
>> suited for programs (e.g. ioctl).
>
> I disagree with using ioctl.
> I agree that the current implementation is not right.
> The configuration of APM and AQM should always be guarantied as coherent
> within the host but it can be done doing the right checks when using 
> the sysfs.

What sysfs interfaces do you suggest?

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Pierre
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12  7:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-29 21:11 [PATCH v6 00/21] s390: vfio-ap: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] s390/zcrypt: Add ZAPQ inline function Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] s390/zcrypt: Review inline assembler constraints Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] s390/zcrypt: Show load of cards and queues in sysfs Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] s390/zcrypt: Integrate ap_asm.h into include/asm/ap.h Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 14:38   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-02 15:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 15:41       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-02 15:54         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 16:11           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-02 16:20             ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-02 16:28               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 14:44                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 16:04       ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-02 15:56   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 13:53   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-02 15:39     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 14:17   ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-10  7:03     ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-12  7:32       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 15:44   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] s390: vfio-ap: structure for storing mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-07-06 14:26   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 14:34     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 12:11   ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-13 12:20     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 12:13   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 12:20   ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-09 14:38     ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-13 12:24       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-13 16:38         ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] s390: vfio-ap: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-07-12 12:47   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 16:03     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-13 10:48       ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] s390: vfio-ap: configure the guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-07-11 23:22   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 14:36     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-12 13:28   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 14:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view guest matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] s390: vfio-ap: zeroize the AP queues Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_RESET ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] KVM: s390: Handling of Cypto control block in VSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 16:28   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03  7:46     ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-03  9:22       ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 11:52         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 12:20           ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 13:25             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 13:58               ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 14:30                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 15:25                   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 16:14                   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 15:20               ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 15:17             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 15:00           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 14:56       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-04  8:31         ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-02 23:10   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 16:36     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-04 16:31       ` Boris Fiuczynski
2018-07-05 13:29         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09  9:21     ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-09 15:50       ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-10  8:49         ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-12  7:26       ` Tony Krowiak [this message]
2018-07-03  8:10   ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-09  9:02     ` Pierre Morel

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