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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Doug Covelli <doug.covelli@broadcom.com>
Cc: Zack Rusin <zack.rusin@broadcom.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>,
	Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest <linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Add support for VMware guest specific hypercalls
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2025 20:46:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93df442c-8ec3-43ee-aba1-e770a5b7588f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6Eb4PfmmHWFTR9A@google.com>

On 2/3/25 20:41, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> -EFAULT isn't the problem, KVM not being able to return useful information in
> all situations is the issue. 

Yes, that's why I don't want it to be an automatically opted-in API.  If 
incremental improvements are possible, it may be useful to allow 
interested userspace to enable it early.  For example...

> Specifically, "guest" accesses that are emulated
> by KVM are problematic, because the -EFAULT from e.g. __kvm_write_guest_page()
> is disconnected from the code that actually kicks out to userspace.  In that
> case, userspace will get KVM_EXIT_MMIO, not -EFAULT.  There are more problems
> beyond KVM_EXIT_MMIO vs. -EFAULT, e.g. instructions that perform multiple memory
> accesses,

those are obviously synchronous and I expect VMware to handle them already.

That said my preferred solution to just use userfaultfd, which is 
synchronous by definition.

Paolo

> "failures" that are squashed and never propagated to userspace (PV
> features tend to do this), page splits, etc.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-03 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-30  3:34 [PATCH 0/3] KVM: x86: Small changes to support VMware guests Zack Rusin
2024-10-30  3:34 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: Allow enabling of the vmware backdoor via a cap Zack Rusin
2024-10-30  3:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: x86: Add support for VMware guest specific hypercalls Zack Rusin
2024-11-04 22:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-05  4:59     ` Zack Rusin
2024-11-07 22:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-08  5:03         ` Zack Rusin
2024-11-09 18:20           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-09 21:11             ` Doug Covelli
2024-11-11 18:49               ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-11 20:55                 ` Doug Covelli
2024-11-12 17:44                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-12 20:44                     ` Doug Covelli
     [not found]                       ` <CABgObfZrTyft-3vqMz5w0ZiAhp-v6c32brgftynZGJO8OafrdA@mail.gmail.com>
2024-11-13 16:04                         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-13 16:24                         ` Doug Covelli
2024-11-13 17:59                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-11-14 15:45                             ` Doug Covelli
2024-12-12 12:19                               ` Doug Covelli
2024-12-18  3:43                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-07 17:09                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-02-03 16:35                                     ` Doug Covelli
2025-02-03 18:21                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-02-03 18:35                                         ` Doug Covelli
2025-02-03 19:41                                           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03 19:46                                             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2025-02-03 19:53                                               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03 20:35                                                 ` Doug Covelli
2024-11-09 16:44         ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-10-30  3:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: selftests: x86: Add a test for KVM_CAP_X86_VMWARE_HYPERCALL Zack Rusin

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