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From: Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>
To: Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>, Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Alper Gun <alpergun@google.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>,
	Emi Kisanuki <fj0570is@fujitsu.com>,
	Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>,
	WeiLin.Chang@arm.com, Lorenzo.Pieralisi2@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 29/44] arm64: RMI: Runtime faulting of memory
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 09:47:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9482dfbc-4d96-47ba-a615-f4ba0bda833f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8da87878-2a5d-478a-a280-60dbed7ad1b9@redhat.com>

On 26/06/2026 08:43, Gavin Shan wrote:
> On 6/26/26 1:58 AM, Suzuki K Poulose wrote:
>> On 25/06/2026 14:53, Gavin Shan wrote:
>>> On 6/6/26 12:35 AM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2026 at 06:11:11PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
>>>>> On 6/5/26 5:28 PM, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2026 at 04:23:15PM +1000, Gavin Shan wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to rebase Jean's latest QEMU series [1] to upstream QEMU, 
>>>>> and found
>>>>> that memory slots backed by THP are broken. With THP disabled on 
>>>>> the host and
>>>>> other fixes (mentioned in my prevous replies) applied on the top of 
>>>>> this (v14)
>>>>> series, I'm able to boot a realm guest with rebased QEMU series 
>>>>> [2], plus more
>>>>> fxies on the top.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://git.codelinaro.org/linaro/dcap/qemu.git  (branch: cca/ 
>>>>> latest)
>>>>> [2] https://git.qemu.org/git/qemu.git                (branch: cca/ 
>>>>> gavin)
>>>>>
>>>>> Lorenzo, You may be saying there is someone making QEMU to support 
>>>>> ARM/CCA?
>>>>
>>>> Mathieu and I are working on that yes and with Steven/Suzuki to fix 
>>>> the THP
>>>> issues you pointed out above.
>>>>
>>>>> If so, I'm not sure if there is a QEMU repository for me to try?
>>>>
>>>> We should be able to submit patches by end of June - we shall let 
>>>> you know
>>>> whether we can make something available earlier.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not sure if there are other known issues in this series. It seems the 
>>> stage2
>>> page fault handling on the shared space isn't working well. In my 
>>> test, the
>>> vring (struct vring_desc) of virtio-net-pci is updated by the guest, 
>>> and the
>>> data isn't seen by QEMU, I'm suspecting if the host-page-frame-number 
>>> is properly
>>> resolved in the s2 page fault handler for shared (unprotected) space.
>>>
>>> - I rebased Jean's latest qemu branch to the upstream qemu;
>>>
>>> - On the host, which is emulated by qemu/tcg, the THP (transparent 
>>> huge page) is
>>>    disabled.
>>>
>>> - On the guest, I can see the virtio vring (struct vring_desc) is 
>>> updated. The
>>>    S1 page-table entry looks correct because the corresponding 
>>> physical address
>>>    0x10046880000 is a sane shared (unprotected) space address.
>>>
>>>    [   52.094143] software IO TLB: Memory encryption is active and 
>>> system is using DMA bounce buffers
>>>    [   52.289746] virtqueue_add_desc_split: 
>>> desc[0]@0xffff000006880000, [00000100b983f000  00000640  0002  0001]
>>>    [   52.432150] PTE 0x00e8010046880707 at address 0xffff000006880000
>>>
>>> - On the host, the s2 page-table-entry is unmapped due to attribute 
>>> transition (private -> shared).
>>>    A subsequent S2 page fault is raised against the adress and the s2 
>>> page-table-entry is built.
>>>
>>>    [  109.259077] ====> realm_unmap_shared_range: 
>>> tracked_unprot_addr=0x10046880000
>>>    [  109.260249] realm_unmap_shared_range: unmapped shared range at 
>>> 0x10046880000
>>>    [  109.317786] realm_unmap_shared_range: unmapped shared range at 
>>> 0x10046880000
>>>    [  109.629939] ====> kvm_handle_guest_abort: 
>>> fault_ipa=0x10046880000, esr=0x92000007
>>>    [  109.630245] realm_map_non_secure: ipa=0x10046880000, 
>>> pfn=0xb8b59, size=0x1000, prot=0xf
>>>    [  109.630331] realm_map_non_secure: ipa=0x10046880000, 
>>> ipa_top=0x10046881000, flags=0x1e0001, range_desc=0xb8b59004
>>
>> Are you able to correlate the order of the transitions and the Guest
>> access with RMM log ? We haven't seen this from our end. We are aware
>> of permission fault issues with Unprotected IPA when backing the memslot
>> with MAP_PRIVATE areas. But this looks different.
>>
>> Lorenzo, have you run into this ?
>>
> 
> It's hard to correlate the order since the logs are collected from two 
> separate
> consoles. For the write permission, I add code to the host where the 
> permission
> is always added for all s2 page faults in the shared space. Otherwise, 
> qemu can
> be killed by -EFAULT or similar error.

This is the problem. We can't add WRITE permission by default. I believe
you may have MAP_PRIVATE mapping and it has to be mapped as READ only
and on a permission fault, we replace it with a writable page. By
overriding the WRITE permission, you let the guest write to a page
that may not be seen by the VMM.

We identified this as a bug in the KVM driver in this series (reported
by Lorenzo) and there is a corresponding tf-RMM change that is required
to get this working. So, please could you wait until the next series
when this will be addressed ? Or you could switch to using MAP_SHARED
for the "shared" memory in the memslot.


Suzuki


> 
> There are more findings after more experiments: this virtio-net-pci 
> device has 3
> queues or vrings (Rx/Tx/Ctrl). The Rx/Tx/Ctrl queue are populated in 
> order one after
> one. In the guest kernel, I intentionally write fixed data 
> (0x0123456789abcdef) to
> the first 8 bytes of the queue when it gets populated, and stop the 
> guest at random
> points to see if the data is gone. I found that the data written to Rx/ 
> Tx queue are
> lost after Ctrl queue is allocated.
> 
> The data written to Rx/Tx queue is lost if the guest stops (B). The data 
> written to
> Rx/Tx queue isn't lost if the guest stops at (A). I can see the pattern 
> (0x0123...cdef)
> by dumping the physcial memory through 'pmemsave' command in qemu.
> 
> DMA allocation
> ==============
> dma_alloc_coherent
>    dma_alloc_attrs
>      dma_direct_alloc
>        __dma_direct_alloc_pages
>        dma_set_decrypted                    // (A) No data lost if being 
> stopped here for the Ctrl queue
>        memset(ret, 0, size)                 // (B) Data lost after being 
> stopped after memset() for the Ctrl queue
> 
> The memset() on the Ctrl queue should trigger a stage2 page fault. It 
> seems the page
> fault enforces the shared pages for Rx/Tx queue to be dropped? I need to 
> add more
> debugging code and track it down.
> 
>> Suzuki
>>
>>
>>>
>>> - On QEMU, the updated vring (struct vring_desc) at GPA 0x46880000 
>>> isn't seen. All the
>>>    data in that adress are zeros.
>>>
>>>    ====> virtqueue_split_pop: vdev=<virtio-net>, sz=0x38, 
>>> queue_index=0x0, vq->vring.num=0x100
>>>    virtqueue_split_pop: last_avail_idx=0x0, head=0x0
>>>    address_space_read_cached_slow: cache@0xffff1c036440, addr=0x0, 
>>> buf=0xffffeee34880, len=0x10
>>>    address_space_read_cached_slow: cache: ptr=0x0, 
>>> xlat=0x10046880000, len=0x1000, mrs=<realm-dma-region>, is_write=no
>>>    address_space_read_cached_slow: translated to mr=<mach-virt.ram>, 
>>> mr_addr=0x6880000, l=0x10
>>>    flatview_read_continue_step: mr=<mach-virt.ram>, 
>>> host=0xffff23e00000, mr_addr=0x6880000, ram_ptr=0xffff2a680000
>>>    virtqueue_split_pop: desc: 0000000000000000 - 00000000 - 00000000 
>>> - 00000000
>>>    qemu-system-aarch64: virtio: zero sized buffers are not allowed
>>>
>>>
> Thanks,
> Gavin
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-26  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 164+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-13 13:17 [PATCH v14 00/44] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 01/44] kvm: arm64: Include kvm_emulate.h in kvm/arm_psci.h Steven Price
2026-05-21 10:19   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:11     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 02/44] kvm: arm64: Avoid including linux/kvm_host.h in kvm_pgtable.h Steven Price
2026-05-21 10:26   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:11     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 03/44] arm64: RME: Handle Granule Protection Faults (GPFs) Steven Price
2026-05-21 12:25   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:15     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 04/44] arm64: RMI: Add SMC definitions for calling the RMM Steven Price
2026-05-18  7:08   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-20 16:01     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 12:40   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 14:50     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-21 15:33     ` Steven Price
2026-05-22  9:58       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-03 10:15         ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 05/44] arm64: RMI: Add wrappers for RMI calls Steven Price
2026-05-19  5:35   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-21 15:44     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:21   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-21 15:44     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 12:49   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:44     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 06/44] arm64: RMI: Check for RMI support at init Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:39   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-21 15:49     ` Steven Price
2026-05-25  6:58       ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-03 10:57         ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 13:02   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-03 10:57     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 07/44] arm64: RMI: Configure the RMM with the host's page size Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:51   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-21 22:36     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-21 13:30   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 14:53     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-03 15:48     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 08/44] arm64: RMI: Ensure that the RMM has GPT entries for memory Steven Price
2026-05-19  5:55   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-03 15:48     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21  0:58   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-03 15:48     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 13:47   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 14:24     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 15:39     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-03 15:48       ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 09/44] arm64: RMI: Provide functions to delegate/undelegate ranges of memory Steven Price
2026-05-21 13:59   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-05-21 16:01     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-22 10:02       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-04 14:43     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 10/44] arm64: RMI: Add support for SRO Steven Price
2026-05-14  8:01   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-14  9:33     ` Steven Price
2026-05-19  6:02   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-04 15:19     ` Steven Price
2026-05-21  4:38   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-04 15:19     ` Steven Price
2026-06-12 23:07       ` Dan Williams (nvidia)
2026-06-15 11:45         ` Steven Price
2026-05-21 14:35   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-04 15:19     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 11/44] arm64: RMI: Check for RMI support at KVM init Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 12/44] arm64: RMI: Check for LPA2 support Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 13/44] arm64: RMI: Define the user ABI Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:17   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-04 15:27     ` Steven Price
2026-05-27 15:21   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-02 11:15     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-04 15:27     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 14/44] arm64: RMI: Basic infrastructure for creating a realm Steven Price
2026-05-19  6:31   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-28  7:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-06-02 14:49     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-04 15:55       ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 15/44] kvm: arm64: Don't expose unsupported capabilities for realm guests Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 16/44] KVM: arm64: Allow passing machine type in KVM creation Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 17/44] arm64: RMI: RTT tear down Steven Price
2026-05-19  6:54   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-26 22:27   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-05 15:01     ` Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:32   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-05 15:01     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 18/44] arm64: RMI: Activate realm on first VCPU run Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 19/44] arm64: RMI: Allocate/free RECs to match vCPUs Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:39   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 20/44] arm64: RMI: Support for the VGIC in realms Steven Price
2026-05-28  4:07   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 21/44] KVM: arm64: Support timers in realm RECs Steven Price
2026-05-28  4:11   ` Gavin Shan
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 22/44] arm64: RMI: Handle realm enter/exit Steven Price
2026-05-28  4:38   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 23/44] arm64: RMI: Handle RMI_EXIT_RIPAS_CHANGE Steven Price
2026-05-19  9:40   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-05 15:02     ` Steven Price
2026-05-27 10:52   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 24/44] KVM: arm64: Handle realm MMIO emulation Steven Price
2026-05-28  5:03   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  8:49     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 25/44] KVM: arm64: Expose support for private memory Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 26/44] arm64: RMI: Allow populating initial contents Steven Price
2026-05-28  5:30   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  9:36     ` Steven Price
2026-06-08  9:41       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-08 13:53         ` Steven Price
2026-06-25 16:19           ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-07-06 16:43   ` Ackerley Tng
2026-07-14  4:37   ` Kohei Enju
2026-07-15 14:06     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 27/44] arm64: RMI: Set RIPAS of initial memslots Steven Price
2026-05-19 10:02   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-19 10:13     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-19 12:55       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-19 13:06         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 28/44] arm64: RMI: Create the realm descriptor Steven Price
2026-05-26 22:47   ` Wei-Lin Chang
2026-06-08  9:49     ` Steven Price
2026-05-28  5:51   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  9:56     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 29/44] arm64: RMI: Runtime faulting of memory Steven Price
2026-06-05  6:23   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05  7:28     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-06-05  8:11       ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-05 14:35         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-06-25 13:53           ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-25 15:58             ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-26  7:43               ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-26  8:47                 ` Suzuki K Poulose [this message]
2026-06-26  9:04                   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-26 11:43                   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-26 16:44                     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-06-28 10:33                       ` Gavin Shan
2026-07-01 13:58                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-07-03 23:36                           ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08  9:30     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-08 10:56       ` Steven Price
2026-06-08 12:58         ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-06-05 11:20   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08 10:56     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 30/44] KVM: arm64: Handle realm VCPU load Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 31/44] KVM: arm64: Validate register access for a Realm VM Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 32/44] KVM: arm64: Handle Realm PSCI requests Steven Price
2026-05-28  6:55   ` Gavin Shan
2026-06-08 11:15     ` Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 33/44] KVM: arm64: WARN on injected undef exceptions Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 34/44] arm64: RMI: allow userspace to inject aborts Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 35/44] arm64: RMI: support RSI_HOST_CALL Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 36/44] arm64: RMI: Allow checking SVE on VM instance Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 37/44] arm64: RMI: Prevent Device mappings for Realms Steven Price
2026-05-19 10:25   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 38/44] arm64: RMI: Propagate number of breakpoints and watchpoints to userspace Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 39/44] arm64: RMI: Set breakpoint parameters through SET_ONE_REG Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 40/44] arm64: RMI: Propagate max SVE vector length from RMM Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 41/44] arm64: RMI: Configure max SVE vector length for a Realm Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 42/44] arm64: RMI: Provide register list for unfinalized RMI RECs Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 43/44] arm64: RMI: Provide accurate register list Steven Price
2026-05-13 13:17 ` [PATCH v14 44/44] arm64: RMI: Enable realms to be created Steven Price
2026-07-01  2:15 ` [PATCH v14 00/44] arm64: Support for Arm CCA in KVM Kohei Enju
2026-07-01 10:53   ` Steven Price
2026-07-02 13:49     ` Kohei Enju

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