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From: Alexander Graf <graf@amazon.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<adrian@parity.io>, <ardb@kernel.org>, <ben@skyportsystems.com>,
	<berrange@redhat.com>, <colmmacc@amazon.com>,
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	<ehabkost@redhat.com>, <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	<haiyangz@microsoft.com>, <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	<jannh@google.com>, <kys@microsoft.com>, <lersek@redhat.com>,
	<linux@dominikbrodowski.net>, <mst@redhat.com>,
	<qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, <raduweis@amazon.com>,
	<sthemmin@microsoft.com>, <tytso@mit.edu>, <wei.liu@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] virt: vmgenid: introduce driver for reinitializing RNG on VM fork
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 16:11:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ac68552-c1fc-22c8-13e6-4f344f85a4fb@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YhjoyIUv2+18BwiR@zx2c4.com>


On 25.02.22 15:33, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 03:18:43PM +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
>>> I recall this part of the old thread. From what I understood, using
>>> "VMGENID" + "QEMUVGID" worked /well enough/, even if that wasn't
>>> technically in-spec. Ard noted that relying on _CID like that is
>>> technically an ACPI spec notification. So we're between one spec and
>>> another, basically, and doing "VMGENID" + "QEMUVGID" requires fewer
>>> changes, as mentioned, appears to work fine in my testing.
>>>
>>> However, with that said, I think supporting this via "VM_Gen_Counter"
>>> would be a better eventual thing to do, but will require acks and
>>> changes from the ACPI maintainers. Do you think you could prepare your
>>> patch proposal above as something on-top of my tree [1]? And if you can
>>> convince the ACPI maintainers that that's okay, then I'll happily take
>>> the patch.
>>
>> Sure, let me send the ACPI patch stand alone. No need to include the
>> VMGenID change in there.
> That's fine. If the ACPI people take it for 5.18, then we can count on
> it being there and adjust the vmgenid driver accordingly also for 5.18.
>
> I just booted up a Windows VM, and it looks like Hyper-V uses
> "Hyper_V_Gen_Counter_V1", which is also quite long, so we can't really
> HID match on that either.


Yes, due to the same problem. I'd really prefer we sort out the ACPI 
matching before this goes mainline. Matching on _HID is explicitly 
discouraged in the VMGenID spec.


Alex





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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-25 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-24 13:39 [PATCH v3 0/2] VM fork detection for RNG Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-24 13:39 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] random: add mechanism for VM forks to reinitialize crng Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 11:26   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 11:43     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 11:44       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-24 13:39 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] virt: vmgenid: introduce driver for reinitializing RNG on VM fork Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 10:37   ` Laszlo Ersek
2022-02-25 11:24   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 11:51     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-02-25 12:01       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 12:00     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 12:48       ` [PATCH v4] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 12:52         ` Greg KH
2022-02-25 12:53         ` Greg KH
2022-02-25 12:56           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:04           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 13:57         ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 14:12           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:18             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:18             ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 14:33               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:11                 ` Alexander Graf [this message]
2022-02-25 15:16                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-02-25 15:22                     ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:43                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:57                         ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:34                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:37                       ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:45                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:36           ` Greg KH
2022-02-25 15:31             ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:36               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 14:54           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:15             ` Alexander Graf
2022-02-25 15:28               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-02-25 15:03           ` Ard Biesheuvel

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