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From: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 14/21] KVM: x86: Enable guest_memfd mmap for default VM type
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 13:41:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTxUpLU3-3dQY8O_SoQCmA8LR1y6w759xfYwisfxHec4aQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <505a30a3-4c55-434c-86a5-f86d2e9dc78a@intel.com>

Hi Xiaoyao,

On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 at 13:22, Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> wrote:
>
> On 7/18/2025 12:27 AM, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > +/*
> > + * CoCo VMs with hardware support that use guest_memfd only for backing private
> > + * memory, e.g., TDX, cannot use guest_memfd with userspace mapping enabled.
> > + */
> > +#define kvm_arch_supports_gmem_mmap(kvm)             \
> > +     (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM_SUPPORTS_MMAP) &&   \
> > +      (kvm)->arch.vm_type == KVM_X86_DEFAULT_VM)
>
> I want to share the findings when I do the POC to enable gmem mmap in QEMU.
>
> Actually, QEMU can use gmem with mmap support as the normal memory even
> without passing the gmem fd to kvm_userspace_memory_region2.guest_memfd
> on KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2.
>
> Since the gmem is mmapable, QEMU can pass the userspace addr got from
> mmap() on gmem fd to kvm_userspace_memory_region(2).userspace_addr. It
> works well for non-coco VMs on x86.
>
> Then it seems feasible to use gmem with mmap for the shared memory of
> TDX, and an additional gmem without mmap for the private memory. i.e.,
> For struct kvm_userspace_memory_region, the @userspace_addr is passed
> with the uaddr returned from gmem0 with mmap, while @guest_memfd is
> passed with another gmem1 fd without mmap.
>
> However, it fails actually, because the kvm_arch_suports_gmem_mmap()
> returns false for TDX VMs, which means userspace cannot allocate gmem
> with mmap just for shared memory for TDX.
>
> SO my question is do we want to support such case?

Thanks for sharing this. To answer your question, no, we explicitly do
not want to support this feature for TDX, since TDX uses a completely
different paradigm.

Cheers,
/fuad

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-21 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-17 16:27 [PATCH v15 00/21] KVM: Enable host userspace mapping for guest_memfd-backed memory for non-CoCo VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 01/21] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM Fuad Tabba
2025-07-21 15:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 15:26     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 02/21] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-07-21 16:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 16:51     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-21 17:33       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-22  9:29         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-22 15:58           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-22 16:01             ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-22 23:42               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-23  9:22                 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 03/21] KVM: Introduce kvm_arch_supports_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  1:42   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 14:47     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 14:55     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-21 16:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 04/21] KVM: x86: Introduce kvm->arch.supports_gmem Fuad Tabba
2025-07-21 16:45   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 17:00     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-21 19:09       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 05/21] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 06/21] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 07/21] KVM: Fix comment that refers to kvm uapi header path Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 08/21] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd pages Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  2:56   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 09/21] KVM: guest_memfd: Track guest_memfd mmap support in memslot Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  3:33   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 10/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Generalize private_max_mapping_level x86 op to max_mapping_level Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  6:19   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 19:46   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 11/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow NULL-able fault in kvm_max_private_mapping_level Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  5:10   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 23:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-22  5:35       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-22 11:08         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-22 14:32           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-22 15:30             ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-22 10:35       ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 12/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Consult guest_memfd when computing max_mapping_level Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  5:32   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-18  5:57     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 13/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle guest page faults for guest_memfd with shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  6:09   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 16:47   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 16:56     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-22  5:41     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-22  8:43       ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 14/21] KVM: x86: Enable guest_memfd mmap for default VM type Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  6:10   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 12:22   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 12:41     ` Fuad Tabba [this message]
2025-07-21 13:45     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-21 14:42       ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 14:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 15:07         ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 17:29           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 20:33             ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-21 22:21               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-21 23:50                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-22 14:35                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-23 14:08                     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-23 14:43                       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-23 14:46                         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-22 14:28     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-22 14:37       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-22 15:31         ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-22 15:50           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-22 15:54           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 15/21] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 16/21] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-07-22 12:31   ` Kunwu Chan
2025-07-23  8:20     ` Marc Zyngier
2025-07-23 11:44       ` Kunwu Chan
2025-07-23  8:26   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 17/21] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle VNCR_EL2-triggered faults backed by guest_memfd Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23  8:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 18/21] KVM: arm64: Enable host mapping of shared guest_memfd memory Fuad Tabba
2025-07-23  8:33   ` Marc Zyngier
2025-07-23  9:18     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 19/21] KVM: Introduce the KVM capability KVM_CAP_GMEM_MMAP Fuad Tabba
2025-07-18  6:14   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-21 17:31   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 20/21] KVM: selftests: Do not use hardcoded page sizes in guest_memfd test Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 16:27 ` [PATCH v15 21/21] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mmap is supported Fuad Tabba

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