From: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 02/21] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2025 13:24:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTzOqCpcaNU4caddh6N3bCO0GvrOoZ+rMApdRh4=+BEXNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7a54cc4-1017-4e32-85b8-cf74237db935@redhat.com>
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 13:14, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 16.07.25 14:01, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > On 7/16/2025 7:15 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >> On 16.07.25 13:05, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 12:02, Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/16/2025 6:25 PM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>>> On 16.07.25 10:31, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/16/2025 4:11 PM, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 05:09, Xiaoyao Li<xiaoyao.li@intel.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 7/15/2025 5:33 PM, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The original name was vague regarding its functionality. This
> >>>>>>>>> Kconfig
> >>>>>>>>> option specifically enables and gates the kvm_gmem_populate()
> >>>>>>>>> function,
> >>>>>>>>> which is responsible for populating a GPA range with guest data.
> >>>>>>>> Well, I disagree.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The config KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM was introduced by commit
> >>>>>>>> 89ea60c2c7b5
> >>>>>>>> ("KVM: x86: Add support for "protected VMs" that can utilize private
> >>>>>>>> memory"), which is a convenient config for vm types that requires
> >>>>>>>> private memory support, e.g., SNP, TDX, and KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VM.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It was commit e4ee54479273 ("KVM: guest_memfd: let
> >>>>>>>> kvm_gmem_populate()
> >>>>>>>> operate only on private gfns") that started to use
> >>>>>>>> CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM gates kvm_gmem_populate()
> >>>>>>>> function. But
> >>>>>>>> CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM is not for kvm_gmem_populate() only.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If using CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to gate
> >>>>>>>> kvm_gmem_populate() is
> >>>>>>>> vague and confusing, we can introduce KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
> >>>>>>>> to gate
> >>>>>>>> kvm_gmem_populate() and select KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE under
> >>>>>>>> CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Directly replace CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM with
> >>>>>>>> KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE doesn't look correct to me.
> >>>>>>> I'll quote David's reply to an earlier version of this patch [*]:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's not related to my concern.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My point is that CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM is used for selecting
> >>>>>> the private memory support. Rename it to KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE is
> >>>>>> not correct.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It protects a function that is called kvm_gmem_populate().
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can we stop the nitpicking?
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think it's nitpicking.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you loot into why it was named as KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM in the
> >>>> first place, and why it was picked to protect kvm_gmem_populate()?
> >>>
> >>> That is, in part, the point of this patch. This flag protects
> >>> kvm_gmem_populate(), and the name didn't reflect that. Now it does. It
> >>> is the only thing it protects.
> >>
> >> I'll note that the kconfig makes it clear that it depends on
> >> KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES -- having support for private memory.
> >>
> >> In any case, CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM is a bad name: what on earth
> >> is generic private memory.
> >
> > "gmem" + "memory_attribute" is the generic private memory.
> >
> > If KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM is a bad name, we can drop it, but not rename
> > it to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE.
> >
> >> If CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE is for some reason I don't
> >> understand yet not the right name, can we have something that better
> >> expresses that is is about KVM .. GMEM ... and POPULATE?
> >
> > I'm not objecting the name of CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE, but
> > objecting the simple rename. Does something below look reasonable?
> > > ---
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig b/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig
> > index 2eeffcec5382..3f87dcaaae83 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig
> > @@ -135,6 +135,7 @@ config KVM_INTEL_TDX
> > bool "Intel Trust Domain Extensions (TDX) support"
> > default y
> > depends on INTEL_TDX_HOST
> > + select KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
> > help
> > Provides support for launching Intel Trust Domain Extensions
> > (TDX)
> > confidential VMs on Intel processors.
> > @@ -158,6 +159,7 @@ config KVM_AMD_SEV
> > depends on CRYPTO_DEV_SP_PSP && !(KVM_AMD=y && CRYPTO_DEV_CCP_DD=m)
> > select ARCH_HAS_CC_PLATFORM
> > select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> > + select KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
> > select HAVE_KVM_ARCH_GMEM_PREPARE
> > select HAVE_KVM_ARCH_GMEM_INVALIDATE
> > help
> > diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > index 755b09dcafce..359baaae5e9f 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
> > @@ -2556,7 +2556,7 @@ static inline int kvm_gmem_get_pfn(struct kvm *kvm,
> > int kvm_arch_gmem_prepare(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn, kvm_pfn_t pfn,
> > int max_order);
> > #endif
> >
> > -#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
> > /**
> > * kvm_gmem_populate() - Populate/prepare a GPA range with guest data
> > *
> > diff --git a/virt/kvm/Kconfig b/virt/kvm/Kconfig
> > index 49df4e32bff7..9b37ca009a22 100644
> > --- a/virt/kvm/Kconfig
> > +++ b/virt/kvm/Kconfig
> > @@ -121,6 +121,10 @@ config KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> > select KVM_GMEM
> > bool
> >
> > +config KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
> > + bool
> > + depends on KVM_GMEM && KVM_GENERIC_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES
> > +
> > config HAVE_KVM_ARCH_GMEM_PREPARE
> > bool
> > depends on KVM_GMEM
> > diff --git a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > index b2aa6bf24d3a..befea51bbc75 100644
> > --- a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > +++ b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > @@ -638,7 +638,7 @@ int kvm_gmem_get_pfn(struct kvm *kvm, struct
> > kvm_memory_slot *slot,
> > }
> > EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(kvm_gmem_get_pfn);
> >
> > -#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE
> > long kvm_gmem_populate(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t start_gfn, void __user
> > *src, long npages,
> > kvm_gmem_populate_cb post_populate, void *opaque)
> > {
> >
> >
>
> $ git grep KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig: select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM if KVM_SW_PROTECTED_VM
> arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig: select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM if INTEL_TDX_HOST
> arch/x86/kvm/Kconfig: select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> include/linux/kvm_host.h:#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> virt/kvm/Kconfig:config KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
> virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c:#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM
>
>
> Why should we leave KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM around when there are no other users?
>
> @fuad help me out, what am I missing?
I'm not sure. Splitting it into two patches, one that introduces
CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE followed by one that drops
CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM ends up with the same result.
Cheers,
/fuad
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-16 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-15 9:33 [PATCH v14 00/21] KVM: Enable host userspace mapping for guest_memfd-backed memory for non-CoCo VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 01/21] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 3:43 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 02/21] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 4:08 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 8:11 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 8:31 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 10:25 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 11:02 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 11:05 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 11:15 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 12:01 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 12:13 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 12:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 12:24 ` Fuad Tabba [this message]
2025-07-16 12:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 12:54 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 12:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 03/21] KVM: Introduce kvm_arch_supports_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 5:07 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 04/21] KVM: x86: Introduce kvm->arch.supports_gmem Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 5:18 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-17 0:12 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-17 1:48 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-17 8:49 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-17 9:00 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-17 16:50 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-07-17 16:59 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 05/21] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 5:19 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 06/21] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 5:20 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 07/21] KVM: Fix comment that refers to kvm uapi header path Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 5:24 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 08/21] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd pages Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 5:40 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 8:15 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 09/21] KVM: guest_memfd: Track guest_memfd mmap support in memslot Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 6:10 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 8:21 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 8:52 ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-07-16 10:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 10:59 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 10/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Generalize private_max_mapping_level x86 op to max_mapping_level Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 11/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Allow NULL-able fault in kvm_max_private_mapping_level Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 12/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Consult guest_memfd when computing max_mapping_level Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 13/21] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle guest page faults for guest_memfd with shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 14/21] KVM: x86: Enable guest_memfd mmap for default VM type Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 10:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 15/21] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 10:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-16 11:26 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-07-16 15:08 ` Marc Zyngier
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 16/21] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 17/21] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle VNCR_EL2-triggered faults backed by guest_memfd Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 18/21] KVM: arm64: Enable host mapping of shared guest_memfd memory Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 19/21] KVM: Introduce the KVM capability KVM_CAP_GMEM_MMAP Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 20/21] KVM: selftests: Do not use hardcoded page sizes in guest_memfd test Fuad Tabba
2025-07-15 9:33 ` [PATCH v14 21/21] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mmap is supported Fuad Tabba
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