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From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "jgg@nvidia.com" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
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	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/10] iommufd/device: Use iommu_group_replace_domain()
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 23:48:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+nrTsIz2UHH/1lD@Asurada-Nvidia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR11MB5271180A1DE8C739455AD06D8CDD9@BL1PR11MB5271.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 02:34:18AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
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> 
> > From: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2023 8:10 AM
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:11:23AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> >
> > > > > > +     if (!iommufd_hw_pagetable_has_group(hwpt, idev->group)) {
> > > > > > +             if (list_empty(&hwpt->devices)) {
> > > > > > +                     iopt_table_remove_domain(&hwpt->ioas->iopt,
> > > > > > +                                              hwpt->domain);
> > > > > > +                     list_del(&hwpt->hwpt_item);
> > > > > > +             }
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure how this can be fully shared between detach and replace.
> > > > > Here some work e.g. above needs to be done before calling
> > > > > iommu_group_replace_domain() while others can be done afterwards.
> > > >
> > > > This iopt_table_remove_domain/list_del is supposed to be done in
> > > > the hwpt's destroy() actually. We couldn't move it because it'd
> > > > need the new domain_alloc_user op and its implementation in ARM
> > > > driver. Overall, I think it should be safe to put it behind the
> > > > iommu_group_replace_domain().
> > > >
> > >
> > > My confusion is that we have different flows between detach/attach
> > > and replace.
> > >
> > > today with separate detach+attach we have following flow:
> > >
> > >         Remove device from current hwpt;
> > >         if (last_device in hwpt) {
> > >                 Remove hwpt domain from current iopt;
> > >                 if (last_device in group)
> > >                         detach group from hwpt domain;
> > >         }
> > >
> > >         if (first device in group) {
> > >                 attach group to new hwpt domain;
> > >                 if (first_device in hwpt)
> > >                         Add hwpt domain to new iopt;
> > >         Add device to new hwpt;
> > >
> > > but replace flow is different on the detach part:
> > >
> > >         if (first device in group) {
> > >                 replace group's domain from current hwpt to new hwpt;
> > >                 if (first_device in hwpt)
> > >                         Add hwpt domain to new iopt;
> > >         }
> > >
> > >         Remove device from old hwpt;
> > >         if (last_device in old hwpt)
> > >                 Remove hwpt domain from old iopt;
> > >
> > >         Add device to new hwpt;
> >
> > Oh... thinking it carefully, I see the flow does look a bit off.
> > Perhaps it's better to have a similar flow for replace.
> >
> > However, I think something would be still different due to its
> > tricky nature, especially for a multi-device iommu_group.
> >
> > An iommu_group_detach happens only when a device is the last one
> > in its group to go through the routine via a DETACH ioctl, while
> > an iommu_group_replace_domain() happens only when the device is
> > the first one in its group to go through the routine via another
> > ATTACH ioctl. However, when the first device does a replace, the
> > cleanup routine of the old hwpt is a NOP, since there are still
> > other devices (same group) in the old hwpt. And two implications
> > here:
> > 1) Any other device in the same group has to forcibly switch to
> >    the new domain, when the first device does a replace.
> > 2) The actual hwpt cleanup can only happen at the last device's
> >    replace call.
> >
> > This also means that kernel has to rely on the integrity of the
> > user space that it must replace all active devices in the group:
> >
> 
> Jason suggested to move hwpt cleanup out of the detach path
> in his reply to patch7. Presumably with that fix the major tricky
> point about hwpt in following scenarios would disappear. Let's
> see how it will work out then. 😊

What about point 1? If dev2 and dev3 are already replaced when
doing iommu_group_replace_domain() on dev1, their idev objects
still have the old hwpt/iopt until user space does another two
IOCTLs on them, right?

Should we only call iommu_group_replace_domain() when the last
device in the group gets a replace IOCTL?

Thanks
Nic

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-13  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07 21:17 [PATCH v2 00/10] Add IO page table replacement support Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] iommu: Move dev_iommu_ops() to private header Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] iommu: Introduce a new iommu_group_replace_domain() API Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10  1:34       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-10 23:51   ` Alex Williamson
2023-02-11  0:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-13  2:24       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13  8:34         ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-13 14:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14  3:29           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  6:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15 12:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-24  0:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-24  8:07           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] iommufd: Create access in vfio_iommufd_emulated_bind() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:56   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 16:15     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09 18:58   ` Eric Farman
2023-02-09 19:54     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] iommufd/selftest: Add IOMMU_TEST_OP_ACCESS_SET_IOAS coverage Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] iommufd: Add replace support in iommufd_access_set_ioas() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  3:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 20:28     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09 20:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-09 22:18         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for access->ioas replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:17 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] iommufd/device: Make hwpt_list list_add/del symmetric Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  3:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10  1:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-10 21:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-13  2:12           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] iommufd/device: Use iommu_group_replace_domain() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-08  8:08   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-02-09 20:55     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-08  8:12   ` Liu, Yi L
2023-02-09 20:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 21:13     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  0:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-10 20:50         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  2:11       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-11  0:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-13  2:34           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13  7:48             ` Nicolin Chen [this message]
2023-02-13  8:27               ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-13 14:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14 10:54                 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  1:37                   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  1:58                     ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  2:15                       ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  7:15                         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  7:24                           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15 12:51                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-14 10:59         ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-15  1:38           ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-15  7:16             ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] vfio: Support IO page table replacement Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-07 21:18 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] vfio: Do not allow !ops->dma_unmap in vfio_pin/unpin_pages() Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  4:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 13:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-09 16:19       ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-09  2:50 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Add IO page table replacement support Tian, Kevin
2023-02-09 16:13   ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-10  1:34     ` Tian, Kevin

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