From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Lei Rao <lei.rao@intel.com>,
kbusch@kernel.org, axboe@fb.com, kch@nvidia.com,
sagi@grimberg.me, alex.williamson@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
yishaih@nvidia.com, shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com,
kevin.tian@intel.com, mjrosato@linux.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, eddie.dong@intel.com, yadong.li@intel.com,
yi.l.liu@intel.com, Konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
stephen@eideticom.com, hang.yuan@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/5] nvme-pci: add function nvme_submit_vf_cmd to issue admin commands for VF driver.
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 11:51:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y49k++D3i8DfLOLL@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221206153811.GB2266@lst.de>
On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 04:38:11PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > We have locking issues in Linux SW connecting different SW drivers for
> > things that are not a PF/VF relationship, but perhaps that can be
> > solved.
>
> And I think the only reasonable answer is that the entire workflow
> must be 100% managed from the controlling function, and the controlled
> function is just around for a ride, with the controlling function
> enabling/disabling it as needed without ever interacting with software
> that directly deals with the controlled function.
That is a big deviation from where VFIO is right now, the controlled
function is the one with the VFIO driver, it should be the one that
drives the migration uAPI components.
Adding another uAPI that can manipulate the same VFIO device from some
unrelated chardev feels wrong.
There are certain things that need to be co-ordinated for eveything to
work. Like you can't suspend the VFIO device unless you promise to
also stop MMIO operations. Stuff like FLR interfers with the migration
operation and has to be co-ordinated. Some migration operation
failures, like load failure, have to be healed through FLR.
It really does not want to be two different uAPIs even if that is
convenient for the kernel.
I'd much rather try to fix the problems PASID brings that try to make
this work :\
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-06 15:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-06 5:58 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Add new VFIO PCI driver for NVMe devices Lei Rao
2022-12-06 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] nvme-pci: add function nvme_submit_vf_cmd to issue admin commands for VF driver Lei Rao
2022-12-06 6:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 13:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 13:51 ` Keith Busch
2022-12-06 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 13:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 15:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 15:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 15:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-12-06 16:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 19:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 2:30 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-07 7:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-09 2:11 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-12-12 7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 7:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 10:59 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-07 13:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 14:50 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-07 16:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 13:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 13:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 15:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 16:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 17:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-07 18:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-07 20:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-09 2:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-12-09 18:56 ` Dong, Eddie
2022-12-11 11:39 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-12 7:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-12 14:49 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-12 7:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-13 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-13 16:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-13 17:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] nvme-vfio: add new vfio-pci driver for NVMe device Lei Rao
2022-12-06 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] nvme-vfio: enable the function of VFIO live migration Lei Rao
2023-01-19 10:21 ` Max Gurtovoy
2023-02-09 9:09 ` Rao, Lei
2022-12-06 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] nvme-vfio: check if the hardware supports " Lei Rao
2022-12-06 13:47 ` Keith Busch
2022-12-06 5:58 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] nvme-vfio: Add a document for the NVMe device Lei Rao
2022-12-06 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 13:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 13:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 13:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 14:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 14:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 14:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 14:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 15:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 15:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-12-06 15:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-06 18:00 ` Dong, Eddie
2022-12-12 7:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-11 12:05 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-11 13:21 ` Rao, Lei
2022-12-11 14:51 ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-12-12 1:20 ` Rao, Lei
2022-12-12 8:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-12-09 2:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-12-09 16:53 ` Li, Yadong
2022-12-12 8:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
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