From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, mimoja@mimoja.de, hewenliang4@huawei.com,
hushiyuan@huawei.com, luolongjun@huawei.com,
hejingxian@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/7] cpu/hotplug: Add dynamic parallel bringup states before CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 11:10:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YbnNLkXTOtFiDMpc@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d48f836d202d3b76b2a6cbaaf3d57f0c8077d986.camel@infradead.org>
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 08:32:29PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-12-14 at 14:24 +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 12:32:46PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > From: David Woodhouse <
> > > dwmw@amazon.co.uk
> > > >
> > >
> > > If the platform registers these states, bring all CPUs to each registered
> > > state in turn, before the final bringup to CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU. This allows
> > > the architecture to parallelise the slow asynchronous tasks like sending
> > > INIT/SIPI and waiting for the AP to come to life.
> > >
> > > There is a subtlety here: even with an empty CPUHP_BP_PARALLEL_DYN step,
> > > this means that *all* CPUs are brought through the prepare states and to
> > > CPUHP_BP_PREPARE_DYN before any of them are taken to CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU
> > > and then are allowed to run for themselves to CPUHP_ONLINE.
> > >
> > > So any combination of prepare/start calls which depend on A-B ordering
> > > for each CPU in turn, such as the X2APIC code which used to allocate a
> > > cluster mask 'just in case' and store it in a global variable in the
> > > prep stage, then potentially consume that preallocated structure from
> > > the AP and set the global pointer to NULL to be reallocated in
> > > CPUHP_X2APIC_PREPARE for the next CPU... would explode horribly.
> > >
> > > We believe that X2APIC was the only such case, for x86. But this is why
> > > it remains an architecture opt-in. For now.
> >
> > It might be worth elaborating with a non-x86 example, e.g.
> >
> > > We believe that X2APIC was the only such case, for x86. Other architectures
> > > have similar requirements with global variables used during bringup (e.g.
> > > `secondary_data` on arm/arm64), so architectures must opt-in for now.
> >
> > ... so that we have a specific example of how unconditionally enabling this for
> > all architectures would definitely break things today.
>
> I do not have such an example, and I do not know that it would
> definitely break things to turn it on for all architectures today.
>
> The x2apic one is an example of why it *might* break random
> architectures and thus why it needs to be an architecture opt-in.
Ah; I had thought we did the `secondary_data` setup in a PREPARE step, and
hence it was a comparable example, but I was mistaken. Sorry for the noise!
> > FWIW, that's something I would like to cleanup for arm64 for general
> > robustness, and if that would make it possible for us to have parallel bringup
> > in future that would be a nice bonus.
>
> Yes. But although I lay the groundwork here, the arch can't *actually*
> do parallel bringup without some arch-specific work, so auditing the
> pre-bringup states is the easy part. :)
Sure; that was trying to be a combination of:
* This looks nice, I'd like to use this (eventually) on arm64.
* I'm aware of some arm64-specific groundwork we need to do before arm64 can
use this.
So I think we're agreed. :)
Thanks,
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-15 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-14 12:32 [PATCH v2 0/7] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] x86/apic/x2apic: Fix parallel handling of cluster_mask David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 17:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-14 21:27 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] cpu/hotplug: Move idle_thread_get() to <linux/smpboot.h> David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] cpu/hotplug: Add dynamic parallel bringup states before CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 14:24 ` Mark Rutland
2021-12-14 20:32 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-15 11:10 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2021-12-15 15:16 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] x86/smpboot: Reference count on smpboot_setup_warm_reset_vector() David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] x86/smpboot: Split up native_cpu_up into separate phases and document them David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] x86/smpboot: Support parallel startup of secondary CPUs David Woodhouse
2021-12-14 12:32 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] x86/smpboot: Send INIT/SIPI/SIPI to secondary CPUs in parallel David Woodhouse
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