From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
"jmattson @ google . com" <jmattson@google.com>,
"wanpengli @ tencent . com" <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
"vkuznets @ redhat . com" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
"mtosatti @ redhat . com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"joro @ 8bytes . org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
karahmed@amazon.com, butt3rflyh4ck <butterflyhuangxx@gmail.com>,
Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/6] x86/xen: Add in-kernel Xen event channel delivery
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 00:26:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdjaOIymuiRhXUeT@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <daeba2e20c50bbede7fbe32c4f3c0aed7091382e.camel@infradead.org>
+Peter
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-12-23 at 21:24 +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Commit e880c6ea55b9 ("KVM: x86: hyper-v: Prevent using not-yet-updated TSC page
> > by secondary CPUs") is squarely to blame as it was added after dirty ring, though
> > in Vitaly's defense, David put it best: "That's a fairly awful bear trap".
>
> Even with the WARN to keep us honest, this is still awful.
>
> We have kvm_vcpu_write_guest()... but the vcpu we pass it is ignored
> and only vcpu->kvm is used. But you have to be running on a physical
> CPU which currently owns *a* vCPU of that KVM, or you might crash.
>
> There is also kvm_write_guest() which doesn't take a vCPU as an
> argument, and looks for all the world like it was designed for you not
> to need one... but which still needs there to be a vCPU or it might
> crash.
>
> I think I want to kill the latter, make the former use the vCPU it's
> given, add a spinlock to the dirty ring which will be uncontended
> anyway in the common case so it shouldn't hurt (?),
IIRC, Peter did a fair amount of performance testing and analysis that led to
the current behavior.
> and then let people use kvm->vcpu[0] when they really need to, with a
> documented caveat that when there are *no* vCPUs in a KVM, dirty tracking
> might not work. Which is fine, as migration of a KVM that hasn't been fully
> set up yet is silly.
"when they really need to" can be a slippery slope, using vcpu[0] is also quite
gross. Though I 100% agree that always using kvm_get_running_vcpu() is awful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-08 0:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-10 16:36 [PATCH v6 0/6] x86/xen: Add in-kernel Xen event channel delivery David Woodhouse
2021-12-10 16:36 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] KVM: Warn if mark_page_dirty() is called without an active vCPU David Woodhouse
2021-12-10 16:36 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] KVM: Reinstate gfn_to_pfn_cache with invalidation support David Woodhouse
2021-12-10 16:36 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] KVM: x86/xen: Maintain valid mapping of Xen shared_info page David Woodhouse
2021-12-10 16:36 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] KVM: x86/xen: Add KVM_IRQ_ROUTING_XEN_EVTCHN and event channel delivery David Woodhouse
2021-12-10 16:36 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] KVM: x86: Fix wall clock writes in Xen shared_info not to mark page dirty David Woodhouse
2021-12-10 16:36 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] KVM: x86: First attempt at converting nested virtual APIC page to gpc David Woodhouse
2021-12-11 1:09 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] x86/xen: Add in-kernel Xen event channel delivery Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-22 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2021-12-23 0:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-12-23 21:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-12-23 22:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-04 7:48 ` Wanpeng Li
2022-01-05 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-08 0:26 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-01-12 3:10 ` Peter Xu
2022-01-19 8:14 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-19 17:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-19 17:38 ` David Woodhouse
2022-01-19 17:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-01-21 18:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
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