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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] KVM: nVMX: Fixes for VMX capability MSR invariance
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 00:33:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yfsi2dSZ6Ga3SnIh@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eRotJRKXwPp=kVdfDjGBkqMJ+6wM+N=-7WnN7yr-azvxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 02, 2022, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 3:04 PM Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ultimately, it is the responsibility of userspace to configure an
> > appropriate MSR value for the CPUID it provides its guest. However,
> > there are a few bits in VMX capability MSRs where KVM intervenes. The
> > "load IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL", "load IA32_BNDCFGS", and "clear
> > IA32_BNDCFGS" bits in the VMX VM-{Entry,Exit} control capability MSRs
> > are updated every time userspace sets the guest's CPUID. In so doing,
> > there is an imposed ordering between ioctls, that userspace must set MSR
> > values *after* setting the guest's CPUID.
> 
>  Do you mean *before*?

No, after, otherwise the CPUID updates will override the MSR updates.

MSR_IA32_FEAT_CTL has this same issue.  But that mess also highlights an issue
with this series: if userspace relies on KVM to do the updates, it will break the
existing ABI, e.g. I'm pretty sure older versions of QEMU rely on KVM to adjust
the MSRs.

I agree that KVM should keep its nose out of this stuff, especially since most
VMX controls are technically not architecturally tied to CPUID.  But we probably
need an opt-in from userspace to stop mucking with the MSRs.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-03  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-02 23:04 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: nVMX: Fixes for VMX capability MSR invariance Oliver Upton
2022-02-02 23:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: nVMX: Don't change VM-{Entry,Exit} ctrl MSRs on PMU CPUID update Oliver Upton
2022-02-02 23:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: nVMX: Don't change VM-{Entry,Exit} ctrl MSRs on MPX " Oliver Upton
2022-02-02 23:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests: KVM: Add test for "load IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL" invariance Oliver Upton
2022-02-02 23:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: KVM: Add test case for "{load/clear} IA32_BNDCFGS" invariance Oliver Upton
2022-02-03  0:04 ` [PATCH 0/4] KVM: nVMX: Fixes for VMX capability MSR invariance Jim Mattson
2022-02-03  0:33   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2022-02-03  0:38     ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-03  0:44       ` Oliver Upton
2022-02-03  0:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-03  0:42     ` Oliver Upton
2022-02-03  0:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-03  1:05         ` Oliver Upton
2022-02-03  1:08         ` Jim Mattson

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