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From: Ricardo Koller <ricarkol@google.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	drjones@redhat.com, alexandru.elisei@arm.com,
	eric.auger@redhat.com, oliver.upton@linux.dev, reijiw@google.com
Subject: Re: [kvm-unit-tests PATCH 3/3] arm: pmu: Remove checks for !overflow in chained counters tests
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 14:26:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ythy8XXN2rFytXdr@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ythw1UT1wFHbY/jN@google.com>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 02:17:09PM -0700, Ricardo Koller wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 10:45:20AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 09:40:01 +0100,
> > Ricardo Koller <ricarkol@google.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 12:34:05PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 18 Jul 2022 16:49:10 +0100,
> > > > Ricardo Koller <ricarkol@google.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > A chained event overflowing on the low counter can set the overflow flag
> > > > > in PMOVS.  KVM does not set it, but real HW and the fast-model seem to.
> > > > > Moreover, the AArch64.IncrementEventCounter() pseudocode in the ARM ARM
> > > > > (DDI 0487H.a, J1.1.1 "aarch64/debug") also sets the PMOVS bit on
> > > > > overflow.
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't this indicative of a bug in the KVM emulation? To be honest, the
> > > > pseudocode looks odd. It says:
> > > > 
> > > > <quote>
> > > > 	if old_value<64:ovflw> != new_value<64:ovflw> then
> > > > 	    PMOVSSET_EL0<idx> = '1';
> > > > 	    PMOVSCLR_EL0<idx> = '1';
> > > > </quote>
> > > > 
> > > > which I find remarkably ambiguous. Is this setting and clearing the
> > > > overflow bit? Or setting it in the single register that backs the two
> > > > accessors in whatever way it can?
> > > > 
> > > > If it is the second interpretation that is correct, then KVM
> > > > definitely needs fixing
> > > 
> > > I think it's the second, as those two "= '1'" apply to the non-chained
> > > counters case as well, which should definitely set the bit in PMOVSSET.
> > > 
> > > > (though this looks pretty involved for
> > > > anything that isn't a SWINC event).
> > > 
> > > Ah, I see, there's a pretty convenient kvm_pmu_software_increment() for
> > > SWINC, but a non-SWINC event is implemented as a single 64-bit perf
> > > event.
> > 
> > Indeed. Which means we need to de-optimise chained counters to being
> > 32bit events, which is pretty annoying (for rapidly firing events, the
> > interrupt rate is going to be significantly higher).
> > 
> > I guess we should also investigate the support for FEAT_PMUv3p5 and
> > native 64bit counters. Someone is bound to build it at some point.
> 
> The kernel perf event is implementing 64-bit counters using chained
> counters. I assume this is already firing an interrupt for the low
> counter overflow; we might need to just hook into that, investigating...
> 

Additionally, given that the kernel is already emulating 64-bit
counters, can KVM just expose FEAT_PMUv3p5? Assuming all the other new
features can be emulated.

Thanks,
Ricardo

> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 	M.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-20 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-18 15:49 [kvm-unit-tests PATCH 0/3] arm: pmu: Fixes for bare metal Ricardo Koller
2022-07-18 15:49 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH 1/3] arm: pmu: Add missing isb()'s after sys register writing Ricardo Koller
2022-07-18 16:38   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-18 17:48     ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-19 11:26       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-19 11:14   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-20 21:20     ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-18 15:49 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH 2/3] arm: pmu: Reset the pmu registers before starting some tests Ricardo Koller
2022-07-18 15:49 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH 3/3] arm: pmu: Remove checks for !overflow in chained counters tests Ricardo Koller
2022-07-19 11:34   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-20  8:40     ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-20  9:45       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-20 21:17         ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-20 21:26           ` Ricardo Koller [this message]
2022-07-21 13:43             ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-22 21:53               ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-23  7:59                 ` Andrew Jones
2022-07-24  9:40                   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-27  2:29                     ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-30 12:47   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-30 12:52     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-08-01 19:15       ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-18 16:42 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH 0/3] arm: pmu: Fixes for bare metal Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-18 17:18   ` Ricardo Koller

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