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From: Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Nikos Nikoleris <nikos.nikoleris@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, andrew.jones@linux.dev, drjones@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, jade.alglave@arm.com, ricarkol@google.com,
	zixuanwang@google.com
Subject: Re: [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 00/27] EFI and ACPI support for arm64
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 16:04:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YvPI1xunDNtAV5jo@monolith.localdoman> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YvPHhwtc6LX62Y+E@google.com>

Hi Sean,

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 02:58:15PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > Hi Sean,
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 03:29:58PM +0000, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2022, Alexandru Elisei wrote:
> > > > Note that the assumption that efi_main() makes is that setup_efi() doesn't
> > > > change the stack from the stack that the UEFI implementation allocated, in
> > > > order for setup_efi() to be able to return to efi_main().
> > > 
> > > On the x86 side, efi_main() now runs with a KUT-controlled stack since commit
> > > 
> > >   d316d12a ("x86: efi: Provide a stack within testcase memory")
> > > 
> > > > If we want to keep the UEFI allocated stack, then both mechanism must be
> > > > forbidden when running under UEFI. I dislike this idea, because those two
> > > > mechanisms allow kvm-unit-tests to run tests which otherwise wouldn't have
> > > > been possible with a normal operating system, which, except for the early
> > > > boot code, runs with the MMU enabled.
> > > 
> > > Agreed.  IMO, KUT should stop using UEFI-controlled data as early as possible.
> > > The original x86 behavior was effectively a temporary solution to get UEFI working
> > > without needing to simultaneously rework the common early boot flows.
> > 
> > Yes, this is also what I am thinking, the stack is poorly specified in the
> > specification because the specification doesn't expect an application to
> > keep using it after calling EFI_BOOT_SERVICES.Exit(). Plus, using the UEFI
> > allocated stack makes the test less reproducible, as even EDK2 today
> > diverges from the spec wrt the stack, and other UEFI implementations might
> > do things differently. And with just like all software, there might be bugs
> > in the firmware. IMO, the more control kvm-unit-tests has over its
> > resources, the more robust the tests are.
> > 
> > What I was thinking is rewriting efi_main to return setup_efi(),
> > something like this:
> > 
> > void efi_main(efi_handle_t handle, efi_system_table_t *sys_tab)
> > {
> > 	/* Get image, cmdline and memory map parameters from UEFI */
> > 
> >         efi_exit_boot_services(handle, &efi_bootinfo.mem_map);
> > 
> >         /* Set up arch-specific resources, not expected to return. */
> >         setup_efi(&efi_bootinfo);
> > }
> > 
> > Which would allow all architectures to change their environment as they see
> > fit, as setup_efi() is not expected to return. Architectures would have to
> > be made aware of the efi_exit() function though.
> 
> And they'd also have to invoke the test's main().  Why can't ARM switch to a KUT
> stack before calling efi_main()?  The stack is a rather special case, I don't think
> it's unreasonable to require architectures to handle that before efi_main().

Sorry, missed the part from your earlier reply about x86 switching to a
kvm-unit-tests controlled stack. I was just going to say that, when I saw
your reply.

I agree, it's entirely feasible for arm64 to switch to its own stack before
calling efi_main(), in which case it can call efi_main() without any
changes to efi_main().

Thanks for your input.

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-10 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-30 10:02 [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 00/27] EFI and ACPI support for arm64 Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:02 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 01/27] lib: Fix style for acpi.{c,h} Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01  9:27   ` Andrew Jones
2022-07-01  9:52     ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01 10:12       ` Andrew Jones
2022-06-30 10:02 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 02/27] x86: Avoid references to fields of ACPI tables Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 03/27] lib: Ensure all struct definition for ACPI tables are packed Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01  9:35   ` Andrew Jones
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 04/27] lib: Add support for the XSDT ACPI table Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01  9:49   ` Andrew Jones
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 05/27] lib: Extend the definition of the ACPI table FADT Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 06/27] devicetree: Check if fdt is NULL before returning that a DT is available Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01  9:55   ` Andrew Jones
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 07/27] arm/arm64: Add support for setting up the PSCI conduit through ACPI Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 08/27] arm/arm64: Add support for discovering the UART " Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 09/27] arm/arm64: Add support for timer initialization " Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 10/27] arm/arm64: Add support for cpu " Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 11/27] arm/arm64: Add support for gic " Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 12/27] lib/printf: Support for precision modifier in printf Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 13/27] lib/printf: Add support for printing wide strings Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 14/27] lib/efi: Add support for getting the cmdline Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 15/27] arm/arm64: mmu_disable: Clean and invalidate before disabling Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:20   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-06-30 11:08     ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 11:24       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-06-30 15:16         ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 15:57           ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-01  9:12             ` Andrew Jones
2022-07-01 10:24               ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-01 11:16                 ` Andrew Jones
2022-07-11 14:23                   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-01 11:34                 ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01 14:39                   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-01 10:36           ` Andrew Jones
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 16/27] arm/arm64: Rename etext to _etext Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 17/27] lib: Avoid ms_abi for calls related to EFI on arm64 Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 18/27] arm64: Add a new type of memory type flag MR_F_RESERVED Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 19/27] arm/arm64: Add a setup sequence for systems that boot through EFI Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:54   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-19 14:08   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-12 14:34     ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 20/27] arm64: Copy code from GNU-EFI Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 21/27] arm64: Change GNU-EFI imported file to use defined types Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 22/27] arm64: Use code from the gnu-efi when booting with EFI Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01  0:43   ` Ricardo Koller
2022-07-04  9:18     ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 23/27] lib: Avoid external dependency in libelf Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 24/27] x86: Move x86_64-specific EFI CFLAGS to x86_64 Makefile Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 25/27] arm64: Add support for efi in Makefile Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-12 13:39   ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-12 20:50     ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-13  8:46       ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-13  9:17         ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-15 13:59           ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 26/27] lib: arm: Print test exit status Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-01 10:48   ` Andrew Jones
2022-06-30 10:03 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 27/27] arm64: Add an efi/run script Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-19 15:28 ` [kvm-unit-tests PATCH v3 00/27] EFI and ACPI support for arm64 Alexandru Elisei
2022-07-22 10:57   ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-07-22 14:41     ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-01 18:23       ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-08-02 10:19         ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-02 10:46           ` Andrew Jones
2022-08-03 12:51             ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-08-09 11:16 ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-09 15:29   ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-10  9:17     ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-10 14:58       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-08-10 15:04         ` Alexandru Elisei [this message]
2022-08-09 16:09   ` Nikos Nikoleris
2022-08-12 14:55     ` Alexandru Elisei
2022-08-12 15:49       ` Nikos Nikoleris

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