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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric Auger" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Rodel, Jorg" <jroedel@suse.de>,
	"Lu Baolu" <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Jordan" <daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com>,
	"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	"Eric Farman" <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Jean-Philippe Brucker" <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
	"Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
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	"Matthew Rosato" <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Nicolin Chen" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Niklas Schnelle" <schnelle@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Shameerali Kolothum Thodi"
	<shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Keqian Zhu" <zhukeqian1@huawei.com>,
	"Steve Sistare" <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	"libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Laine Stump" <laine@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] IOMMUFD Generic interface
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 20:20:22 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YyucNnYlPgj/v6vN@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YytbiCx3CxCnP6fr@nvidia.com>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 03:44:24PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> If /dev/vfio/vfio is provided by iommufd it may well have to trigger a
> different ulimit tracking - if that is the only sticking point it
> seems minor and should be addressed in some later series that adds
> /dev/vfio/vfio support to iommufd..

And I have come up with a nice idea for this that feels OK

- Add a 'pin accounting compat' flag to struct iommufd_ctx (eg per FD)
  The flag is set to 1 if /dev/vfio/vfio was the cdev that opened the
  ctx
  An IOCTL issued by cap sysadmin can set the flag

- If the flag is set we do not do pin accounting in the user.
  Instead we account for pins in the FD. The single FD cannot pass the
  rlimit.

This nicely emulates the desired behavior from virtualization without
creating all the problems with exec/fork/etc that per-task tracking
has.

Even in iommufd native mode a priviledged virtualization layer can use
the ioctl to enter the old mode and pass the fd to qemu under a shared
user. This should ease migration I guess.

It can still be oversubscribed but it is now limited to the number of
iommufd_ctx's *with devices* that the userspace can create. Since each
device can be attached to only 1 iommufd this is a stronger limit than
the task limit. 1 device given to the qemu will mean a perfect
enforcement. (ignoring that a hostile qemu can still blow past the
rlimit using concurrent rdma or io_uring)

It is a small incremental step - does this suitably address the concern?

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-02 19:59 [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] IOMMUFD Generic interface Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/13] interval-tree: Add a utility to iterate over spans in an interval tree Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/13] iommufd: Overview documentation Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-07  1:39   ` David Gibson
2022-09-09 18:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-12 10:40       ` David Gibson
2022-09-27 17:33         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-29  3:47           ` David Gibson
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/13] iommufd: File descriptor, context, kconfig and makefiles Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04  8:19   ` Baolu Lu
2022-09-09 18:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/13] kernel/user: Allow user::locked_vm to be usable for iommufd Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/13] iommufd: PFN handling for iopt_pages Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/13] iommufd: Algorithms for PFN storage Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/13] iommufd: Data structure to provide IOVA to PFN mapping Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/13] iommufd: IOCTLs for the io_pagetable Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/13] iommufd: Add a HW pagetable object Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/13] iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers for physical devices Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/13] iommufd: Add kAPI toward external drivers for kernel access Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/13] iommufd: vfio container FD ioctl compatibility Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-02 19:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/13] iommufd: Add a selftest Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-13  1:55 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/13] IOMMUFD Generic interface Tian, Kevin
2022-09-13  7:28   ` Eric Auger
2022-09-20 19:56     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  3:48       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 18:06       ` Alex Williamson
2022-09-21 18:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 19:30           ` Steven Sistare
2022-09-21 23:09             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-06 16:01               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-06 22:57                 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-10 20:54                 ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-11 12:30                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-11 20:30                     ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-12 12:32                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 13:50                         ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-12 14:40                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-12 14:55                             ` Steven Sistare
2022-10-12 14:59                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 23:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-09-22 11:20           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 14:49               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 15:00                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 15:31                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23  8:54                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-23 13:29                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 13:35                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-23 13:46                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:00                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-23 15:40                                 ` Laine Stump
2022-10-21 19:56                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:03                           ` Alex Williamson
2022-09-26  6:34                             ` David Gibson
2022-09-21 22:36         ` Laine Stump
2022-09-22 11:06         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-22 14:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-22 14:46             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-09-13  2:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-20 20:07   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  3:40     ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:19       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-26 13:48     ` Rodel, Jorg

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