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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
	"Yanan Wang" <wangyanan55@huawei.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"Ani Sinha" <anisinha@redhat.com>, "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	"Claudio Fontana" <cfontana@suse.de>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Isaku Yamahata" <isaku.yamahata@gmail.com>,
	"Chenyi Qiang" <chenyi.qiang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 49/65] i386/tdx: handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<GetQuote>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 09:10:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-5Ces2kGrB67aPw@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3a8ed8d-9994-42c9-ba3b-ef59d6977ce6@intel.com>

On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 03:28:43PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> On 4/2/2025 11:49 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025 at 11:26:11PM +0800, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > > 
> > > I guess the raw mode was introduced due to the design was changed to let
> > > guest kernel to forward to TD report to host QGS via TDVMCALL instead of
> > > guest application communicates with host QGS via vsock, and Linux TD guest
> > > driver doesn't integrate any QGS protocol but just forward the raw TD report
> > > data to KVM.
> > > 
> > > > IMHO, QEMU should be made to pack & unpack the TDX report from
> > > > the guest into the GET_QUOTE_REQ / GET_QUOTE_RESP messages, and
> > > > this "raw" mode should be removed to QGS as it is inherantly
> > > > dangerous to have this magic protocol overloading.
> > > 
> > > There is no enforcement that the input data of TDVMCALL.GetQuote is the raw
> > > data of TD report. It is just the current Linux tdx-guest driver of tsm
> > > implementation send the raw data. For other TDX OS, or third-party driver,
> > > they might encapsulate the raw TD report data with QGS message header. For
> > > such cases, if QEMU adds another layer of package, it leads to the wrong
> > > result.
> > 
> > If I look at the GHCI spec
> > 
> >    https://cdrdv2-public.intel.com/726790/TDX%20Guest-Hypervisor%20Communication%20Interface_1.0_344426_006%20-%2020230311.pdf
> > 
> > In "3.3 TDG.VP.VMCALL<GetQuote>", it indicates the parameter is a
> > "TDREPORT_STRUCT". IOW, it doesn't look valid to allow the guest to
> > send arbitrary other data as QGS protocol messages.
> 
> In table 3-7, the description of R12 is
> 
>   Shared GPA as input - the memory contains a TDREPORT_STRUCT.
>   The same buffer is used as output - the memory contains a TD Quote.
> 
> table 3-10, describes the detailed format of the shared GPA:
> 
> starting from offset 24 bytes, it is the "Data"
> 
>   On input, the data filled by TD with input length. The data should
>   include TDREPORT_STRUCT. TD should zeroize the remaining buffer to
>   avoid information leak if size of shared GPA (R13) > Input Length.
> 
> It uses the word "contains" and "include", but without "only". So it is not
> clear to me.
> 
> I will work with internal attestation folks to make it clearer that who (TD
> guest or host VMM) is responsible to encapsulate the raw TDERPORT_STRCUT
> with QGS MSG protocol, and update the spec accordingly.

To be clear, my strong preference is that the spec be updated to only
permit the raw TDREPORT_STRUCT.

IMHO allowing arbitrary QGS MSGs would be a significant host security
weakness, as it exposes a huge amount of the QGS codebase to direct
attack from the guest. QEMU needs to be able to block that attack
vector. Without that, the benefit/value of shuffling of TDREPORTs via
the GetQuote hypercall is largely eliminated, and might as well have
just exposed QGS over VSOCK.

With regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-03  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-29  6:36 [PATCH v5 00/65] QEMU Guest memfd + QEMU TDX support Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 01/65] linux-headers: Update to Linux v6.8-rc5 Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 02/65] RAMBlock: Add support of KVM private guest memfd Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 03/65] HostMem: Add mechanism to opt in kvm guest memfd via MachineState Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 04/65] trace/kvm: Split address space and slot id in trace_kvm_set_user_memory() Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 05/65] kvm: Enable KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION2 for memslot Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 06/65] kvm: Introduce support for memory_attributes Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-19  2:03   ` Wang, Lei
2024-03-20 12:44     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 07/65] physmem: Introduce ram_block_discard_guest_memfd_range() Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 08/65] kvm: handle KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-05  9:10   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-03-07  6:43     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-19  2:14   ` Wang, Lei
2024-03-20 13:49     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 09/65] trace/kvm: Add trace for page convertion between shared and private Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 10/65] kvm/memory: Make memory type private by default if it has guest memfd backend Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 11/65] *** HACK *** linux-headers: Update headers to pull in TDX API changes Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 12/65] i386: Introduce tdx-guest object Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  8:19   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 13/65] target/i386: Implement mc->kvm_type() to get VM type Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 14/65] i386/tdx: Implement tdx_kvm_init() to initialize TDX VM context Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 15/65] i386/tdx: Get tdx_capabilities via KVM_TDX_CAPABILITIES Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-12 23:02   ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-03-19  2:43   ` Wang, Lei
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 16/65] i386/tdx: Introduce is_tdx_vm() helper and cache tdx_guest object Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 17/65] i386/tdx: Adjust the supported CPUID based on TDX restrictions Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-31  8:47   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-06-12  9:23     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-06-13  8:26       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-06-14  1:02         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 18/65] i386/tdx: Make Intel-PT unsupported for TD guest Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-31  9:27   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-06-12  9:24     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 19/65] i386/tdx: Update tdx_cpuid_lookup[].tdx_fixed0/1 by tdx_caps.cpuid_config[] Xiaoyao Li
2024-05-31  9:27   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 20/65] i386/tdx: Integrate tdx_caps->xfam_fixed0/1 into tdx_cpuid_lookup Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 21/65] i386/tdx: Integrate tdx_caps->attrs_fixed0/1 to tdx_cpuid_lookup Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 22/65] i386/kvm: Move architectural CPUID leaf generation to separate helper Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 23/65] kvm: Introduce kvm_arch_pre_create_vcpu() Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 24/65] i386/tdx: Initialize TDX before creating TD vcpus Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 25/65] i386/tdx: Add property sept-ve-disable for tdx-guest object Xiaoyao Li
2024-06-06 10:45   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-12  8:28     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-06-13  8:35       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-06-14  1:04         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-06-14  2:49           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-06-14  7:49           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-24 15:01             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-26 14:45               ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 26/65] i386/tdx: Make sept_ve_disable set by default Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 27/65] i386/tdx: Wire CPU features up with attributes of TD guest Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 28/65] i386/tdx: Disable pmu for " Xiaoyao Li
2024-04-16  8:32   ` Chenyi Qiang
2024-04-16  8:55     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 29/65] i386/tdx: Validate TD attributes Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 30/65] i386/tdx: Support user configurable mrconfigid/mrowner/mrownerconfig Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  8:37   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-29 10:50     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29 13:25       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-29 14:14         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-07  8:39           ` Markus Armbruster
2024-03-07 11:24             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-07 13:56               ` Markus Armbruster
2024-03-11  1:25                 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-11  7:19                   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 31/65] i386/tdx: Implement user specified tsc frequency Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 32/65] i386/tdx: Set kvm_readonly_mem_enabled to false for TDX VM Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 33/65] kvm/tdx: Don't complain when converting vMMIO region to shared Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 34/65] kvm/tdx: Ignore memory conversion to shared of unassigned region Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 35/65] memory: Introduce memory_region_init_ram_guest_memfd() Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 36/65] i386/tdx: load TDVF for TD guest Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 37/65] i386/tdvf: Introduce function to parse TDVF metadata Xiaoyao Li
2024-06-04  6:32   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2024-02-29  6:36 ` [PATCH v5 38/65] i386/tdx: Parse TDVF metadata for TDX VM Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 39/65] i386/tdx: Skip BIOS shadowing setup Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 40/65] i386/tdx: Don't initialize pc.rom for TDX VMs Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 41/65] i386/tdx: Track mem_ptr for each firmware entry of TDVF Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 42/65] i386/tdx: Track RAM entries for TDX VM Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 43/65] headers: Add definitions from UEFI spec for volumes, resources, etc Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 44/65] i386/tdx: Setup the TD HOB list Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 45/65] i386/tdx: Populate TDVF private memory via KVM_MEMORY_MAPPING Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 46/65] i386/tdx: Call KVM_TDX_INIT_VCPU to initialize TDX vcpu Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 47/65] i386/tdx: Finalize TDX VM Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 48/65] i386/tdx: handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<SetupEventNotifyInterrupt> Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 49/65] i386/tdx: handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<GetQuote> Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  8:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-02-29 10:54     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29 13:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-03-07 11:25         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-11  9:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-03-12  7:44     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-12 18:02       ` Isaku Yamahata
2024-03-13 15:31       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-03-15  8:41         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-03 18:08   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-02 15:26     ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-04-02 15:49       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2025-04-03  7:28         ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-04-03  8:10           ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2025-04-08  2:00             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 50/65] i386/tdx: handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<MapGPA> hypercall Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 51/65] i386/tdx: Handle TDG.VP.VMCALL<REPORT_FATAL_ERROR> Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 52/65] i386/tdx: Wire TDX_REPORT_FATAL_ERROR with GuestPanic facility Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  8:51   ` Markus Armbruster
2024-03-07 11:30     ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-07 13:51       ` Markus Armbruster
2024-03-11  1:28         ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-03-11  7:29           ` Markus Armbruster
2024-03-12  7:27             ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 53/65] pci-host/q35: Move PAM initialization above SMRAM initialization Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 54/65] q35: Introduce smm_ranges property for q35-pci-host Xiaoyao Li
2024-10-05  8:15   ` Michael Tokarev
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 55/65] i386/tdx: Disable SMM for TDX VMs Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 56/65] i386/tdx: Disable PIC " Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 57/65] i386/tdx: Don't allow system reset " Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 58/65] i386/tdx: LMCE is not supported for TDX Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 59/65] hw/i386: add eoi_intercept_unsupported member to X86MachineState Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 60/65] hw/i386: add option to forcibly report edge trigger in acpi tables Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 61/65] i386/tdx: Don't synchronize guest tsc for TDs Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 62/65] i386/tdx: Only configure MSR_IA32_UCODE_REV in kvm_init_msrs() " Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 63/65] i386/tdx: Skip kvm_put_apicbase() " Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 64/65] i386/tdx: Don't get/put guest state for TDX VMs Xiaoyao Li
2024-02-29  6:37 ` [PATCH v5 65/65] docs: Add TDX documentation Xiaoyao Li

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