From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>
Cc: "binbin.wu@linux.intel.com" <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
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Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
Weijiang Yang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
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Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
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"nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
"tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com" <tony.lindgren@linux.intel.com>,
Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:51:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0T_iPdmtpjrc14q@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <735d3a560046e4a7a9f223dc5688dcf1730280c5.camel@intel.com>
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024, Kai Huang wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 07:19 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024, Binbin Wu wrote:
> > > On 11/22/2024 4:14 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > - tdx_vcpu_enter_exit() calls guest_state_enter_irqoff()
> > > > and guest_state_exit_irqoff() which comments say should be
> > > > called from non-instrumentable code but noinst was removed
> > > > at Sean's suggestion:
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zg8tJspL9uBmMZFO@google.com/
> > > > noinstr is also needed to retain NMI-blocking by avoiding
> > > > instrumented code that leads to an IRET which unblocks NMIs.
> > > > A later patch set will deal with NMI VM-exits.
> > > >
> > > In https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zg8tJspL9uBmMZFO@google.com, Sean mentioned:
> > > "The reason the VM-Enter flows for VMX and SVM need to be noinstr is they do things
> > > like load the guest's CR2, and handle NMI VM-Exits with NMIs blocks. None of
> > > that applies to TDX. Either that, or there are some massive bugs lurking due to
> > > missing code."
> > >
> > > I don't understand why handle NMI VM-Exits with NMIs blocks doesn't apply to
> > > TDX. IIUIC, similar to VMX, TDX also needs to handle the NMI VM-exit in the
> > > noinstr section to avoid the unblock of NMIs due to instrumentation-induced
> > > fault.
> >
> > With TDX, SEAMCALL is mechnically a VM-Exit. KVM is the "guest" running in VMX
> > root mode, and the TDX-Module is the "host", running in SEAM root mode.
> >
> > And for TDH.VP.ENTER, if a hardware NMI arrives with the TDX guest is active,
> > the initial NMI VM-Exit, which consumes the NMI and blocks further NMIs, goes
> > from SEAM non-root to SEAM root. The SEAMRET from SEAM root to VMX root (KVM)
> > is effectively a VM-Enter, and does NOT block NMIs in VMX root (at least, AFAIK).
> >
> > So trying to handle the NMI "exit" in a noinstr section is pointless because NMIs
> > are never blocked.
>
> I thought NMI remains being blocked after SEAMRET?
No, because NMIs weren't blocked at SEAMCALL.
> The TDX CPU architecture extension spec says:
>
> "
> On transition to SEAM VMX root operation, the processor can inhibit NMI and SMI.
> While inhibited, if these events occur, then they are tailored to stay pending
> and be delivered when the inhibit state is removed. NMI and external interrupts
> can be uninhibited in SEAM VMX-root operation. In SEAM VMX-root operation,
> MSR_INTR_PENDING can be read to help determine status of any pending events.
>
> On transition to SEAM VMX non-root operation using a VM entry, NMI and INTR
> inhibit states are, by design, updated based on the configuration of the TD VMCS
> used to perform the VM entry.
>
> ...
>
> On transition to legacy VMX root operation using SEAMRET, the NMI and SMI
> inhibit state can be restored to the inhibit state at the time of the previous
> SEAMCALL and any pending NMI/SMI would be delivered if not inhibited.
> "
>
> Here NMI is inhibited in SEAM VMX root, but is never inhibited in VMX root.
Yep.
> And the last paragraph does say "any pending NMI would be delivered if not
> inhibited".
That's referring to the scenario where an NMI becomes pending while the CPU is in
SEAM, i.e. has NMIs blocked.
> But I thought this applies to the case when "NMI happens in SEAM VMX root", but
> not "NMI happens in SEAM VMX non-root"? I thought the NMI is already
> "delivered" when CPU is in "SEAM VMX non-root", but I guess I was wrong here..
When an NMI happens in non-root, the NMI is acknowledged by the CPU prior to
performing VM-Exit. In regular VMX, NMIs are blocked after such VM-Exits. With
TDX, that blocking happens for SEAM root, but the SEAMRET back to VMX root will
load interruptibility from the SEAMCALL VMCS, and I don't see any code in the
TDX-Module that propagates that blocking to SEAMCALL VMCS.
Hmm, actually, this means that TDX has a causality inversion, which may become
visible with FRED's NMI source reporting. E.g. NMI X arrives in SEAM non-root
and triggers a VM-Exit. NMI X+1 becomes pending while SEAM root is active.
TDX-Module SEAMRETs to VMX root, NMIs are unblocked, and so NMI X+1 is delivered
and handled before NMI X.
So the TDX-Module needs something like this:
diff --git a/src/td_transitions/td_exit.c b/src/td_transitions/td_exit.c
index eecfb2e..b5c17c3 100644
--- a/src/td_transitions/td_exit.c
+++ b/src/td_transitions/td_exit.c
@@ -527,6 +527,11 @@ void td_vmexit_to_vmm(uint8_t vcpu_state, uint8_t last_td_exit, uint64_t scrub_m
load_xmms_by_mask(tdvps_ptr, xmm_select);
}
+ if (<is NMI VM-Exit => SEAMRET)
+ {
+ set_guest_inter_blocking_by_nmi();
+ }
+
// 7. Run the common SEAMRET routine.
tdx_vmm_post_dispatching();
and then KVM should indeed handle NMI exits prior to leaving the noinstr section.
> > TDX is also different because KVM isn't responsible for context switching guest
> > state. Specifically, CR2 is managed by the TDX Module, and so there is no window
> > where KVM runs with guest CR2, and thus there is no risk of clobbering guest CR2
> > with a host value, e.g. due to take a #PF due instrumentation triggering something.
> >
> > All that said, I did forget that code that runs between guest_state_enter_irqoff()
> > and guest_state_exit_irqoff() can't be instrumeneted. And at least as of patch 2
> > in this series, the simplest way to make that happen is to tag tdx_vcpu_enter_exit()
> > as noinstr. Just please make sure nothing else is added in the noinstr section
> > unless it absolutely needs to be there.
>
> If NMI is not a concern, is below also an option?
No, because instrumentation needs to be prohibited for the entire time between
guest_state_enter_irqoff() and guest_state_exit_irqoff().
> guest_state_enter_irqoff();
>
> instructmentation_begin();
> tdh_vp_enter();
> instructmentation_end();
>
> guest_state_exit_irqoff();
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-25 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-21 20:14 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper to enter/exit TDX guest Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 16:33 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-25 13:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 11:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:58 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-11 18:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 15:45 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:16 ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-13 16:30 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:44 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 16:26 ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 17:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 13:43 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX vcpu enter/exit path Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:23 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-11-22 5:56 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-22 14:33 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 5:56 ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-28 6:26 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: TDX: vcpu_run: save/restore host state(host kernel gs) Adrian Hunter
2024-11-25 14:12 ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-11-26 16:15 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 5:49 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-25 11:10 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-26 2:20 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-28 6:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 2:52 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-02 6:36 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-17 16:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 15:22 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-20 16:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 21:24 ` PKEY syscall number for selftest? (was: [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD) Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 17:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-03 18:16 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2025-01-09 19:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 14:50 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-10 17:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-14 20:04 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-15 2:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 19:28 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-13 23:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 11:34 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: x86: Allow to update cached values in kvm_user_return_msrs w/o wrmsr Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: TDX: restore user ret MSRs Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 3:27 ` Chao Gao
2024-11-27 14:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-29 11:39 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 19:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-02 19:24 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 0:34 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-03 17:34 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 19:17 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 1:25 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:18 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 6:37 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 6:57 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 11:13 ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 11:55 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:33 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:51 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-05 17:31 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-06 3:37 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-06 14:40 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-09 2:46 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-09 7:08 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-10 2:45 ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:40 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 1:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Binbin Wu
2024-11-25 15:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 19:50 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-25 22:51 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-11-26 1:43 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 1:44 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 3:52 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 5:29 ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26 5:37 ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 21:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-10 18:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
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