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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Yan Y Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	 "dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	 "dmatlack@google.com" <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Weijiang Yang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
	 Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 Isaku Yamahata <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
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	 "nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	 Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Xin3 Li <xin3.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:41:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z0ZAo4lZcIj0rEZb@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8db4d414-b8f0-4ea2-a850-0f168967fb94@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, Binbin Wu wrote:
> On 11/26/2024 11:52 AM, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > On Tue, 2024-11-26 at 09:44 +0800, Binbin Wu wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 11/26/2024 6:51 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > > When an NMI happens in non-root, the NMI is acknowledged by the CPU prior to
> > > > performing VM-Exit.  In regular VMX, NMIs are blocked after such VM-Exits.  With
> > > > TDX, that blocking happens for SEAM root, but the SEAMRET back to VMX root will
> > > > load interruptibility from the SEAMCALL VMCS, and I don't see any code in the
> > > > TDX-Module that propagates that blocking to SEAMCALL VMCS.
> > > I see, thanks for the explanation!
> > > 
> > > > Hmm, actually, this means that TDX has a causality inversion, which may become
> > > > visible with FRED's NMI source reporting.  E.g. NMI X arrives in SEAM non-root
> > > > and triggers a VM-Exit.  NMI X+1 becomes pending while SEAM root is active.
> > > > TDX-Module SEAMRETs to VMX root, NMIs are unblocked, and so NMI X+1 is delivered
> > > > and handled before NMI X.
> > > This example can also cause an issue without FRED.
> > > 1. NMI X arrives in SEAM non-root and triggers a VM-Exit.
> > > 2. NMI X+1 becomes pending while SEAM root is active.
> > > 3. TDX-Module SEAMRETs to VMX root, NMIs are unblocked.
> > > 4. NMI X+1 is delivered and handled before NMI X.
> > >      (NMI handler could handle all NMI source events, including the source
> > >       triggered NMI X)
> > > 5. KVM calls exc_nmi() to handle the VM Exit caused by NMI X
> > > In step 5, because the source event caused NMI X has been handled, and NMI X
> > > will not be detected as a second half of back-to-back NMIs, according to
> > > Linux NMI handler, it will be considered as an unknown NMI.
> > I don't think KVM should call exc_nmi() anymore if NMI is unblocked upon
> > SEAMRET.
> 
> IIUC, KVM has to, because the NMI triggered the VM-Exit can't trigger the
> NMI handler to be invoked automatically even if NMI is unblocked upon SEAMRET.

Yep.  The NMI is consumed by the VM-Exit, for all intents and purposes.  KVM must
manually invoke the NMI handler.

Which is how the ordering gets messed up: NMI X+1 arrives before KVM has a chance
to manually invoke the handler for NMI X.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-11-26 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-21 20:14 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/7] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper to enter/exit TDX guest Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 11:10   ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22 16:33     ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-25 13:40       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28 11:13         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:58           ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-11 18:43             ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 15:45               ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:16               ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-13 16:30                 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-13 16:44                   ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 16:26   ` Dave Hansen
2024-11-22 17:29     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25 13:43       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: TDX: Implement TDX vcpu enter/exit path Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22  5:23   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-11-22  5:56     ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-22 14:33       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-28  5:56         ` Yan Zhao
2024-11-28  6:26           ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: TDX: vcpu_run: save/restore host state(host kernel gs) Adrian Hunter
2024-11-25 14:12   ` Nikolay Borisov
2024-11-26 16:15     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22  5:49   ` Chao Gao
2024-11-25 11:10     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-26  2:20       ` Chao Gao
2024-11-28  6:50         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02  2:52           ` Chao Gao
2024-12-02  6:36             ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-17 16:09       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 15:22         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-20 16:22           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-20 21:24             ` PKEY syscall number for selftest? (was: [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD) Sean Christopherson
2025-01-27 17:09               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-03 18:16             ` [PATCH 4/7] KVM: TDX: restore host xsave state when exit from the guest TD Adrian Hunter
2025-01-09 19:11               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-10 14:50                 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-10 17:30                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-14 20:04                     ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-15  2:28                       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-13 19:28                 ` Adrian Hunter
2025-01-13 23:47                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 11:34     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: x86: Allow to update cached values in kvm_user_return_msrs w/o wrmsr Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: TDX: restore user ret MSRs Adrian Hunter
2024-11-21 20:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: TDX: Add TSX_CTRL msr into uret_msrs list Adrian Hunter
2024-11-22  3:27   ` Chao Gao
2024-11-27 14:00     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-29 11:39       ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-02 19:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-02 19:24           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03  0:34             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-03 17:34               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-03 19:17                 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04  1:25                   ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04  6:18                     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04  6:37                       ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04  6:57                         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 11:13                           ` Chao Gao
2024-12-04 11:55                             ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-04 15:33                               ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:51                                 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-12-05 17:31                                 ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-06  3:37                                   ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-06 14:40                                     ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-09  2:46                                       ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-09  7:08                                         ` Adrian Hunter
2024-12-10  2:45                                           ` Xiaoyao Li
2024-12-04 23:40                               ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-25  1:25 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: TDX: TD vcpu enter/exit Binbin Wu
2024-11-25 15:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-25 19:50     ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-25 22:51       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-11-26  1:43         ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26  1:44         ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26  3:52           ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26  5:29             ` Binbin Wu
2024-11-26  5:37               ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-26 21:41               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-12-10 18:23 ` Paolo Bonzini

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