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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 syzbot+cdeaeec70992eca2d920@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
	 Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] KVM: x86/xen: Restrict hypercall MSR to unofficial synthetic range
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2025 11:20:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6O6Evrdl9pPM3hX@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <85f8aaea4cb5918cef92309c8c1c26fc7fd113b8.camel@infradead.org>

On Wed, Feb 05, 2025, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 16:18 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > 
> > > Oh!  It doesn't help KVM avoid breaking userspace, but a way for QEMU to avoid a
> > > future collision would be to have QEMU start at 0x40000200 when Hyper-V is enabled,
> > > but then use KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST to detect a collision with KVM Hyper-V, e.g.
> > > increment the index until an available index is found (with sanity checks and whatnot).
> > 
> > Makes sense. I think that's a third separate patch, yes?
> 
> To be clear, I think I mean a third patch which further restricts
> kvm_xen_hvm_config() to disallow indices for which
> kvm_is_advertised_msr() returns true?
> 
> We could roll that into your original patch instead, if you prefer.

Nah, I like the idea of separate patch.

> Q: Should kvm_is_advertised_msr() include the Xen hypercall MSR, if one
> is already configured? Life is easier if we answer 'no'...

No :-)

The idea with kvm_is_advertised_msr() is to ignore accesses to MSRs that don't
exist according the to vCPU model, but that KVM advertised to userspace (via
KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST) and so may be saved/restored by a naive/unoptimized
userspace.

For the Xen MSR, KVM never advertises the MSR, and IIUC, KVM will never treat
the MSR as non-existent because defining the MSR brings it into existence. 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-05 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-01  1:13 [PATCH 0/5] KVM: x86/xen: Restrict hypercall MSR index Sean Christopherson
2025-02-01  1:13 ` [PATCH 1/5] KVM: x86/xen: Restrict hypercall MSR to unofficial synthetic range Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03  9:09   ` Paul Durrant
2025-02-05  9:27   ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-05 15:06     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-05 15:26       ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-05 15:51         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-05 16:18           ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-05 17:15             ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-05 19:20               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-02-06 18:58                 ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-07 17:18                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-06  9:18           ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-06 16:51   ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-01  1:13 ` [PATCH 2/5] KVM: x86/xen: Add an #ifdef'd helper to detect writes to Xen MSR Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03  9:09   ` Paul Durrant
2025-02-06 16:28   ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-01  1:13 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: x86/xen: Consult kvm_xen_enabled when checking for Xen MSR writes Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03  9:15   ` Paul Durrant
2025-02-06 16:29   ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-01  1:13 ` [PATCH 4/5] KVM: x86/xen: Bury xen_hvm_config behind CONFIG_KVM_XEN=y Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03  9:19   ` Paul Durrant
2025-02-06 16:30   ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-01  1:14 ` [PATCH 5/5] KVM: x86/xen: Move kvm_xen_hvm_config field into kvm_xen Sean Christopherson
2025-02-03  9:21   ` Paul Durrant
2025-02-06 16:32   ` David Woodhouse
2025-02-06 19:14 ` [PATCH] KVM: x86/xen: Only write Xen hypercall page for guest writes to MSR David Woodhouse
2025-02-15  0:50   ` Sean Christopherson

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