From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Patrick Bellasi <derkling@google.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Patrick Bellasi <derkling@matbug.net>,
Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH] x86/bugs: KVM: Add support for SRSO_MSR_FIX
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:56:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7OUZhyPHNtZvwGJ@Asmaa.> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250217160728.GFZ7NewJHpMaWdiX2M@fat_crate.local>
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 05:07:28PM +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 09:59:59PM -0800, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > If 1-2% is the cost for keeping the MSR enabled at all times, I wonder
> > if we should just do that for simplicitly, and have it its own
> > mitigation option (chosen by the cmdline).
>
> Yes, that's what David and I think we should do initially.
>
> Then we can chase some more involved scheme like setting the bit before the
> first VM runs and then clearing it when the last one exits. I *think* I've
> seen something like that in KVM but I need to stare in detail.
>
> > - Upon return to userspace (similar to your previous proposal). In this
> > case we run userspace with the MSR cleared, and only perform an IBPB
> > in the exit to userspace pace.
>
> You want to IBPB before clearing the MSR as otherwise host kernel will be
> running with the mistrained gunk from the guest.
I meant IBPB + MSR clear before going to userspace, or IBPB + MSR clear
before a context switch.
>
> > Any thoughts?
>
> Yes, let's keep it simple and do anything more involved *only* if it is really
> necessary.
>
> --
> Regards/Gruss,
> Boris.
>
> https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-17 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-02 12:04 [PATCH v2 0/4] x86/bugs: Adjust SRSO mitigation to new features Borislav Petkov
2024-12-02 12:04 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] x86/bugs: Add SRSO_USER_KERNEL_NO support Borislav Petkov
2024-12-10 6:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-12-10 15:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 7:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-12-11 20:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 22:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-16 17:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-02 12:04 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] KVM: x86: Advertise SRSO_USER_KERNEL_NO to userspace Borislav Petkov
2024-12-02 12:04 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] x86/bugs: KVM: Add support for SRSO_MSR_FIX Borislav Petkov
2024-12-11 22:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-16 17:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-16 18:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-12-17 9:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2024-12-30 11:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-08 13:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-08 15:49 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-08 17:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-08 18:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-08 18:37 ` Jim Mattson
2025-01-08 19:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-08 19:43 ` Jim Mattson
2025-01-08 19:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-11 12:52 ` [PATCH] " Borislav Petkov
2025-01-17 18:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-18 15:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-23 16:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-23 17:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-23 18:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-01-24 12:58 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-11 19:19 ` Jim Mattson
2025-02-11 20:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-13 10:53 ` Patrick Bellasi
2025-02-13 13:44 ` Patrick Bellasi
2025-02-13 14:28 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-13 17:50 ` Patrick Bellasi
2025-02-14 20:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-15 0:57 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-15 9:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17 5:47 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-17 15:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-15 12:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17 5:59 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-17 16:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17 19:56 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2025-02-17 20:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-17 20:32 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-18 11:13 ` [PATCH final?] " Borislav Petkov
2025-02-18 14:42 ` Patrick Bellasi
2025-02-18 15:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-04-29 13:25 ` x86/bugs: KVM: Add support for SRSO_MSR_FIX, back for moar Borislav Petkov
2025-04-30 23:33 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-01 0:42 ` Michael Larabel
2025-05-01 8:19 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-01 16:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 15:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-05 15:40 ` Kaplan, David
2025-05-05 15:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-05-05 16:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 16:42 ` Kaplan, David
2025-05-05 18:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 18:25 ` Kaplan, David
2024-12-02 12:04 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] Documentation/kernel-parameters: Fix a typo in kvm.enable_virt_at_load text Borislav Petkov
2024-12-03 14:30 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] x86/bugs: Adjust SRSO mitigation to new features Nikolay Borisov
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