From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Manali Shukla <manali.shukla@amd.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
pbonzini@redhat.com, shuah@kernel.org, nikunj@amd.com,
thomas.lendacky@amd.com, vkuznets@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
babu.moger@amd.com, neeraj.upadhyay@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/3] KVM: SVM: Add Idle HLT intercept support
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 06:32:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8B3l8VGA2RHRI1j@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <454ba4ae-4be7-49ae-a9b9-3b25cad8433a@amd.com>
On Thu, Feb 27, 2025, Manali Shukla wrote:
> On 2/26/2025 3:37 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >> @@ -5225,6 +5230,8 @@ static __init void svm_set_cpu_caps(void)
> >> if (vnmi)
> >> kvm_cpu_cap_set(X86_FEATURE_VNMI);
> >>
> >> + kvm_cpu_cap_check_and_set(X86_FEATURE_IDLE_HLT);
> >
> > I am 99% certain this is wrong. Or at the very least, severly lacking an
> > explanation of why it's correct. If L1 enables Idle HLT but not HLT interception,
> > then it is KVM's responsibility to NOT exit to L1 if there is a pending V_IRQ or
> > V_NMI.
> >
> > Yeah, it's buggy. But, it's buggy in part because *existing* KVM support is buggy.
> > If L1 disables HLT exiting, but it's enabled in KVM, then KVM will run L2 with
> > HLT exiting and so it becomes KVM's responsibility to check for valid L2 wake events
> > prior to scheduling out the vCPU if L2 executes HLT. E.g. nVMX handles this by
> > reading vmcs02.GUEST_INTERRUPT_STATUS.RVI as part of vmx_has_nested_events(). I
> > don't see the equivalent in nSVM.
> >
> > Amusingly, that means Idle HLT is actually a bug fix to some extent. E.g. if there
> > is a pending V_IRQ/V_NMI in vmcb02, then running with Idle HLT will naturally do
> > the right thing, i.e. not hang the vCPU.
> >
> > Anyways, for now, I think the easiest and best option is to simply skip full nested
> > support for the moment.
> >
>
> Got it, I see the issue you're talking about. I'll need to look into it a bit more to
> fully understand it. So yeah, we can hold off on full nested support for idle HLT
> intercept for now.
>
> Since we are planning to disable Idle HLT support on nested guests, should we do
> something like this ?
>
> @@ -167,10 +167,15 @@ void recalc_intercepts(struct vcpu_svm *svm)
> if (!nested_svm_l2_tlb_flush_enabled(&svm->vcpu))
> vmcb_clr_intercept(c, INTERCEPT_VMMCALL);
>
> + if (!guest_cpu_cap_has(&svm->vcpu, X86_FEATURE_IDLE_HLT))
> + vmcb_clr_intercept(c, INTERCEPT_IDLE_HLT);
> +
>
> When recalc_intercepts copies the intercept values from vmc01 to vmcb02, it also copies
> the IDLE HLT intercept bit, which is set to 1 in vmcb01. Normally, this isn't a problem
> because the HLT intercept takes priority when it's on. But if the HLT intercept gets
> turned off for some reason, the IDLE HLT intercept will stay on, which is not what we
> want.
Why don't we want that?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-27 14:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-28 12:48 [PATCH v6 0/3] Add support for the Idle HLT intercept feature Manali Shukla
2025-01-28 12:48 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] x86/cpufeatures: Add CPUID feature bit for Idle HLT intercept Manali Shukla
2025-01-28 12:48 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] KVM: SVM: Add Idle HLT intercept support Manali Shukla
2025-02-25 22:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-27 8:21 ` Manali Shukla
2025-02-27 14:32 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-02-27 16:05 ` Manali Shukla
2025-02-27 16:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-28 14:58 ` Manali Shukla
2025-01-28 12:48 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] KVM: selftests: Add self IPI HLT test Manali Shukla
2025-01-29 5:26 ` Neeraj Upadhyay
2025-02-26 0:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-28 15:05 ` Manali Shukla
2025-02-10 5:06 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] Add support for the Idle HLT intercept feature Manali Shukla
2025-02-17 4:43 ` Manali Shukla
2025-02-28 17:06 ` Sean Christopherson
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