From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
"linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Add iommufd physical device operations for replace and alloc hwpt
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 08:46:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAcyEzN4102gPsWC@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52764E0C994D6B2519BD6F9B8CB79@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:42:06AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2023 8:28 AM
> >
> [...]
> > The implementation is complicated because we have to introduce some
> > per-iommu_group memory in iommufd and redo how we think about multi-
> > device
> > groups to be more explicit. This solves all the locking problems in the
> > prior attempts.
> >
>
> Now think about the pasid case.
>
> pasid attach is managed as a device operation today:
> iommu_attach_device_pasid()
>
> Following it naturally we'll have a pasid array per iommufd_device to
> track attached HWPT per pasid.
>
> But internally there is only one pasid table per iommu group. i.e. same
> story as RID attach that once dev1 replaces hwpt on pasid1 then it takes
> effect on all other devices in the same group.
IMHO I can't belive that any actual systems that support PASID have a
RID aliasing problem too.
I think we should fix the iommu core to make PASID per-device and
require systems that have a RID aliasing problem to block PASID.
This is a bigger picture, if drivers have to optionally share their
PASID tables with other drivers then we can't have per-driver PASID
allocators at all either.
> Then confusion comes. If we must have explicit group object in iommufd
> to manage domain replacement per rid, then do we need the same
> explicit mechanism e.g. tracking pasid attached hwpt in iommufd_group
> instead of in iommufd_device? and have a iommu_attach_group_pasid() API.
If we make PASID per-group then yes
But no actual HW models per-group PASID to the VM so this is a
complete API disaster for vIOMMU. Better not to do it.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-07 12:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-25 0:27 [PATCH 00/14] Add iommufd physical device operations for replace and alloc hwpt Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 01/14] iommufd: Move isolated msi enforcement to iommufd_device_bind() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 7:45 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 02/14] iommufd: Add iommufd_group Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 7:55 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-02 12:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-03 2:13 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-06 19:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-07 2:32 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 03/14] iommufd: Replace the hwpt->devices list with iommufd_group Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 8:01 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-06 20:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-07 2:38 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-07 13:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-08 7:29 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-08 19:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 04/14] iommufd: Use the iommufd_group to avoid duplicate reserved groups and msi setup Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 8:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-02 12:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-03 2:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 05/14] iommufd: Make sw_msi_start a group global Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 8:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-06 20:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 06/14] iommufd: Move putting a hwpt to a helper function Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 8:12 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-06 20:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 07/14] iommufd: Add enforced_cache_coherency to iommufd_hw_pagetable_alloc() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 8:14 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 08/14] iommu: Introduce a new iommu_group_replace_domain() API Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-02 8:16 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 09/14] iommufd: Add iommufd_device_replace() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-26 3:01 ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-27 13:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-28 1:50 ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-28 13:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-01 1:55 ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-26 3:13 ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-27 14:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-28 2:10 ` Baolu Lu
2023-02-28 13:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-01 2:23 ` Baolu Lu
2023-03-02 8:20 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-06 20:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-07 2:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-07 13:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 10/14] iommufd: Make destroy_rwsem use a lock class per object type Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 11/14] iommufd/selftest: Test iommufd_device_replace() Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 12/14] iommufd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-06 1:42 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-06 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-17 3:02 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-17 4:02 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-17 10:20 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-21 17:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 13/14] iommufd/selftest: Return the real idev id from selftest mock_domain Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-25 0:27 ` [PATCH 14/14] iommufd/selftest: Add a selftest for IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-26 19:29 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-02-27 15:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-28 0:17 ` Nicolin Chen
2023-03-07 8:42 ` [PATCH 00/14] Add iommufd physical device operations for replace and alloc hwpt Tian, Kevin
2023-03-07 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-03-08 2:08 ` Baolu Lu
2023-03-08 7:38 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-08 18:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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