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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Mathias Krause <minipli@grsecurity.net>
Cc: Zhi Wang <zhi.wang.linux@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] KVM: x86: Do not unload MMU roots when only toggling CR0.WP
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:22:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBI3AtIvMXEK3Csc@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ac184a7-4325-a1f7-b533-41a7e590c66c@grsecurity.net>

On Wed, Feb 08, 2023, Mathias Krause wrote:
> On 07.02.23 14:36, Zhi Wang wrote:
> > On Wed,  1 Feb 2023 20:46:01 +0100
> > Mathias Krause <minipli@grsecurity.net> wrote:
> > I suppose this is a critical path according to the patch comments and
> > kvm_init_mmu() is a non-critical path. Is it better to seperate 
> > them now for saving the maintanence efforts in future? E.g. something heavier 
> > might be introduced into the kvm_init_mmu() path and slows down this path.
> 
> I'll look into what can be done about it. But this change is a first
> step that can be further optimized via follow up changes.
> 
> As you can see from the numbers below, it's already way faster that what
> we have right now, so I'd rather land this (imperfect) change sooner
> than later and gradually improve on it. This will, however, likely only
> bring minor speedups compared to this change, so they're less important,
> IMHO.
> 
> The question is really what's better from a maintenance point of view:
> Keeping the call to the commonly used kvm_init_mmu() function or special
> case even further? I fear the latter might regress easier, but YMMV, of
> course.

Agreed.  Unless the performance benefits of getting super precise are significant,
I would much rather keep things simpler and reduce the risk of introducing bugs.
Bugs in this area in particular have a nasty habit of being really good at hiding.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-15 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-01 19:45 [PATCH v3 0/6] KVM: MMU: performance tweaks for heavy CR0.WP users Mathias Krause
2023-02-01 19:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Avoid indirect call for get_cr3 Mathias Krause
2023-02-01 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] KVM: VMX: Avoid retpoline call for control register caused exits Mathias Krause
2023-03-15 21:38   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 20:43     ` Mathias Krause
2023-02-01 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] KVM: x86: Do not unload MMU roots when only toggling CR0.WP Mathias Krause
2023-02-07 13:36   ` Zhi Wang
2023-02-08  9:52     ` Mathias Krause
2023-03-15 21:22       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-03-15 22:11   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 21:13     ` Mathias Krause
2023-02-01 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] KVM: x86: Make use of kvm_read_cr*_bits() when testing bits Mathias Krause
2023-02-07 13:05   ` Zhi Wang
2023-02-08  9:11     ` Mathias Krause
2023-02-14 11:08       ` Zhi Wang
2023-03-15 22:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 21:34     ` Mathias Krause
2023-03-21 15:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-01 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] KVM: x86/mmu: Fix comment typo Mathias Krause
2023-02-01 19:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] KVM: VMX: Make CR0.WP a guest owned bit Mathias Krause
2023-03-15 22:30   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 21:31     ` Mathias Krause
2023-03-06  6:34 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] KVM: MMU: performance tweaks for heavy CR0.WP users Mathias Krause
2023-03-06 18:07   ` Sean Christopherson

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