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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
Cc: Anish Moorthy <amoorthy@google.com>,
	jthoughton@google.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, maz@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [WIP Patch v2 00/14] Avoiding slow get-user-pages via memory fault exit
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2023 11:13:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZBStyKk6H73/0z2r@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZBSmz0JAgTrsF608@linux.dev>

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023, Oliver Upton wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 02:17:24AM +0000, Anish Moorthy wrote:
> > Hi Sean, here's what I'm planing to send up as v2 of the scalable
> > userfaultfd series.
> 
> I don't see a ton of value in sending a targeted posting of a series to the
> list. IOW, just CC all of the appropriate reviewers+maintainers. I promise,
> we won't bite.

+1.  And though I discourage off-list review, if something is really truly not
ready for public review, e.g. will do more harm than good by causing confusing,
then just send the patches off-list.  Half measures like this will just make folks
grumpy.

> > Don't worry, I'm not asking you to review this all :) I just have a few
> > remaining questions regarding KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_EXIT which seem important
> > enough to mention before I ask for more attention from others, and they'll be
> > clearer with the patches in hand. Anything else I'm happy to find out about when
> > I send the actual v2.
> > 
> > I want your opinion on
> > 
> > 1. The general API I've set up for KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_EXIT
> >    (described in the api.rst file)
> > 2. Whether the UNKNOWN exit reason cases (everywhere but
> >    handle_error_pfn atm) would need to be given "real" reasons
> >    before this could be merged.
> > 3. If you think I've missed sites that currently -EFAULT to userspace
> > 
> > About (3): after we agreed to only tackle cases where -EFAULT currently makes it
> > to userspace, I went though our list and tried to trace which EFAULTS actually
> > bubble up to KVM_RUN. That set ended being suspiciously small, so I wanted to
> > sanity-check my findings with you. Lmk if you see obvious errors in my list
> > below.
> > 
> > --- EFAULTs under KVM_RUN ---
> > 
> > Confident that needs conversion (already converted)
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > * direct_map
> > * handle_error_pfn
> > * setup_vmgexit_scratch
> > * kvm_handle_page_fault
> > * FNAME(fetch)
> > 
> > EFAULT does not propagate to userspace (do not convert)
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > * record_steal_time (arch/x86/kvm/x86.c:3463)
> > * hva_to_pfn_retry
> > * kvm_vcpu_map
> > * FNAME(update_accessed_dirty_bits)
> > * __kvm_gfn_to_hva_cache_init
> >   Might actually make it to userspace, but only through
> >   kvm_read|write_guest_offset_cached- would be covered by those conversions
> > * kvm_gfn_to_hva_cache_init
> > * __kvm_read_guest_page
> > * hva_to_pfn_remapped
> >   handle_error_pfn will handle this for the scalable uffd case. Don't think
> >   other callers -EFAULT to userspace.
> >
> > Still unsure if needs conversion
> > --------------------------------
> > * __kvm_read_guest_atomic
> >   The EFAULT might be propagated though FNAME(sync_page)?
> > * kvm_write_guest_offset_cached (virt/kvm/kvm_main.c:3226)
> > * __kvm_write_guest_page
> >   Called from kvm_write_guest_offset_cached: if that needs change, this does too
> 
> The low-level accessors are common across architectures and can be called from
> other contexts besides a vCPU. Is it possible for the caller to catch -EFAULT
> and convert that into an exit?

Ya, as things stand today, the conversions _must_ be performed at the caller, as
there are (sadly) far too many flows where KVM squashes the error.  E.g. almost
all of x86's paravirt code just suppresses user memory faults :-(

Anish, when we discussed this off-list, what I meant by limiting the intial support
to existing -EFAULT cases was limiting support to existing cases where KVM directly
returns -EFAULT to userspace, not to all existing cases where -EFAULT is ever
returned _within KVM_ while handling KVM_RUN.  My apologies if I didn't make that clear.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-17 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-15  2:17 [WIP Patch v2 00/14] Avoiding slow get-user-pages via memory fault exit Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 01/14] KVM: selftests: Allow many vCPUs and reader threads per UFFD in demand paging test Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 02/14] KVM: selftests: Use EPOLL in userfaultfd_util reader threads and signal errors via TEST_ASSERT Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 03/14] KVM: Allow hva_pfn_fast to resolve read-only faults Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 04/14] KVM: x86: Add KVM_CAP_X86_MEMORY_FAULT_EXIT and associated kvm_run field Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17  0:02   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-17 18:33     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 19:30       ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-17 21:50       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17 22:44         ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-20 15:53           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 18:19             ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-20 22:11             ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-21 15:21               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-21 18:01                 ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-21 19:43                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-22 21:06                     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-22 23:17                       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-28 22:19                     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-04-04 19:34                       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-04 20:40                         ` Anish Moorthy
2023-04-04 22:07                           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-04-05 20:21                             ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 18:35   ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 05/14] KVM: x86: Implement memory fault exit for direct_map Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 06/14] KVM: x86: Implement memory fault exit for kvm_handle_page_fault Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 07/14] KVM: x86: Implement memory fault exit for setup_vmgexit_scratch Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 08/14] KVM: x86: Implement memory fault exit for FNAME(fetch) Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 09/14] KVM: Introduce KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_NOWAIT without implementation Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 18:59   ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-17 20:15     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 20:54       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17 23:42         ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-20 15:13           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 19:53             ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 20:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 22:22       ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-21 14:50         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-21 20:23           ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-21 21:01             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 10/14] KVM: x86: Implement KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_NOWAIT Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17  0:32   ` Isaku Yamahata
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 11/14] KVM: arm64: Allow user_mem_abort to return 0 to signal a 'normal' exit Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 18:18   ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 12/14] KVM: arm64: Implement KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_NOWAIT Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 18:27   ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-17 19:00     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 19:03       ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-17 19:24       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 13/14] KVM: selftests: Add memslot_flags parameter to memstress_create_vm Anish Moorthy
2023-03-15  2:17 ` [WIP Patch v2 14/14] KVM: selftests: Handle memory fault exits in demand_paging_test Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 17:43 ` [WIP Patch v2 00/14] Avoiding slow get-user-pages via memory fault exit Oliver Upton
2023-03-17 18:13   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-03-17 18:46     ` David Matlack
2023-03-17 18:54       ` Oliver Upton
2023-03-17 18:59         ` David Matlack
2023-03-17 19:53           ` Anish Moorthy
2023-03-17 22:03             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-20 15:56               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-03-17 20:35 ` Sean Christopherson

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