From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] vfio/pci: Add VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_GROUP_INFO
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 12:57:44 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZCRf+OdpBVnw5ntC@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230329094944.50abde4e.alex.williamson@redhat.com>
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 09:49:44AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > We could extend bind_iommufd to return the group id or introduce a
> > new ioctl to query it per dev_id.
>
> That would be ironic to go to all this trouble to remove groups from
> the API only to have them show up here.
Groups always had to be part of the API for advanced cases like qemu -
the point was to make them a small side bit of information not front
and center in control of everything.
> For example, devices within a group cannot be bound to separate
> iommufds due to lack of isolation, which is handled via DMA ownership,
> but barring DMA aliasing issues, due to conventional PCI buses or
> quirks, cdev could allow devices within the same group to be managed by
> separate IOAS's.
Maybe some future kernel could do this, the API allows it at least..
> So the group information really isn't enough for
> userspace to infer address space restrictions with cdev anyway.
>
> Therefore aren't we expecting this to be denied at attach_ioas() and
> QEMU shouldn't be making these sorts of assumptions for cdev anyway?
I guess we could make an API specifically to report same-iommu_domina
information?
I was assuming qemu would use the group for now as I don't see a
likely future when we would relax that restriction.. So I was keeping
a "add it when we need it" attitude here.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-29 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-27 9:34 [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce new methods for verifying ownership in vfio PCI hot reset Yi Liu
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] vfio/pci: Update comment around group_fd get in vfio_pci_ioctl_pci_hot_reset() Yi Liu
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] vfio/pci: Only check ownership of opened devices in hot reset Yi Liu
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] vfio/pci: Move the existing hot reset logic to be a helper Yi Liu
2023-03-30 23:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-30 23:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] vfio-iommufd: Add helper to retrieve iommufd_ctx and devid for vfio_device Yi Liu
2023-03-30 23:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] vfio/pci: Allow passing zero-length fd array in VFIO_DEVICE_PCI_HOT_RESET Yi Liu
2023-03-30 23:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] vfio: Refine vfio file kAPIs for vfio PCI hot reset Yi Liu
2023-03-30 23:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] vfio: Accpet device file from vfio PCI hot reset path Yi Liu
2023-03-30 23:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] vfio/pci: Renaming for accepting device fd in " Yi Liu
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] vfio/pci: Accept device fd in VFIO_DEVICE_PCI_HOT_RESET ioctl Yi Liu
2023-03-30 23:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-27 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] vfio/pci: Add VFIO_DEVICE_GET_PCI_HOT_RESET_GROUP_INFO Yi Liu
2023-03-27 19:26 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-27 20:40 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-28 3:45 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-28 3:32 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-28 6:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-28 14:25 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-28 14:38 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-28 14:46 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-28 15:00 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-28 15:18 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-28 15:45 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-28 16:00 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-29 3:13 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-29 9:41 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-29 15:49 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-29 15:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-03-30 1:17 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-30 22:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-30 12:48 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-30 12:56 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-30 22:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-30 23:05 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-30 23:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-29 15:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-30 1:10 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-30 1:33 ` Tian, Kevin
2023-03-28 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-28 19:09 ` Alex Williamson
2023-03-28 19:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-28 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-03-28 14:45 ` Liu, Yi L
2023-03-31 3:14 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce new methods for verifying ownership in vfio PCI hot reset Jiang, Yanting
2023-03-31 13:24 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-03 2:04 ` Jiang, Yanting
2023-03-31 5:01 ` Jiang, Yanting
2023-03-31 17:27 ` Xu, Terrence
2023-03-31 17:49 ` Alex Williamson
2023-04-01 9:15 ` Xu, Terrence
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