From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Daniel Sneddon <daniel.sneddon@linux.intel.com>,
"kvm @ vger . kernel . org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: VMX: remove LFENCE in vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host()
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 11:31:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZH4qBjLi0egsuC1D@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230605173101.iflfly3bt6ydvvyk@desk>
On Mon, Jun 05, 2023, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 05, 2023 at 04:39:02PM +0000, Jon Kohler wrote:
> > >>> Yes. Though in practice it might not make much of a difference. With
> > >>> wrmsr+lfence, the lfence has nothing to do so it might be almost
> > >>> instantaneous anyway.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Josh
> > >>
> > >> Coming back to this, what if we hoisted call vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host above
> > >> FILL_RETURN_BUFFER, and dropped this LFENCE as I did here?
> > >>
> > >> That way, we wouldn’t have to mess with the internal LFENCE in nospec-branch.h,
> > >> and that would act as the “final line of defense” LFENCE.
> > >>
> > >> Would that be acceptable? Or does FILL_RETURN_BUFFER *need* to occur
> > >> before any sort of calls no matter what?
> > >
> > > If we go by Intel's statement that only unbalanced RETs are a concern,
> > > that *might* be ok as long as there's a nice comment above the
> > > FILL_RETURN_BUFFER usage site describing the two purposes for the
> > > LFENCE.
>
> We would then need FILL_RETURN_BUFFER to unconditionally execute LFENCE
> to account for wrmsr branch misprediction. Currently LFENCE is not
> executed for !X86_BUG_EIBRS_PBRSB.
>
> > > However, based on Andy's concerns, which I've discussed with him
> > > privately (but I'm not qualified to agree or disagree with), we may want
> > > to just convert vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host() to asm. Better safe than
> > > sorry. My original implementation of that function was actually asm. I
> > > can try to dig up that code.
>
> Note:
>
> VMexit
> CALL
> RET
> RET <---- This is also a problem if the first call hasn't retired yet.
> LFENCE
>
> Converting vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host() to ASM should be able to take care
> of this.
Is there an actual bug here, or are we just micro-optimizing something that may or
may not need additional optimization? Unless there's a bug to be fixed, moving
code into ASM and increasing complexity doesn't seem worthwhile.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-05 18:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-31 15:01 [PATCH] KVM: VMX: remove LFENCE in vmx_spec_ctrl_restore_host() Jon Kohler
2023-05-31 23:18 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-05-31 23:58 ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-01 0:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-01 0:50 ` Andrew Cooper
2023-06-01 0:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-01 1:24 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-06-01 4:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-05 14:29 ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-05 16:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-05 16:39 ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-05 17:31 ` Pawan Gupta
2023-06-05 18:31 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-06-05 19:57 ` Jon Kohler
2023-06-05 20:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-06 0:20 ` Andrew Cooper
2023-06-06 3:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-06-01 0:29 ` Andrew Cooper
2023-06-01 0:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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