From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34076C77B7A for ; Fri, 26 May 2023 17:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S242137AbjEZRIs (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 May 2023 13:08:48 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:59310 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S237407AbjEZRIq (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 May 2023 13:08:46 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb4a.google.com (mail-yb1-xb4a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b4a]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0804F3 for ; Fri, 26 May 2023 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb4a.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-babb5e91ab4so2208993276.0 for ; Fri, 26 May 2023 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20221208; t=1685120924; x=1687712924; h=cc:to:from:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vGiA8RDXZNla+9oLRBME/ADstNGcLr0myZFsD2x+srs=; b=q+q1fbB+HvtjpmCLptxf0KQdqQ7cCTrflxak5hyAfDyMsl8AwPsS/9dDGqqkCEAbUo XPoOzeWmF2a8QKGAVE3Od0fimzYo47YvWifrxI2j0sYTNVKIGeQ4Rgm/6UwQRExZh02H CozoI7wPYLqEdvkW+Ox56sAS9YqON7dKmdzRU+jS9uZL4g14DSC2+otYfVEr7fzBh359 eqO59zmFqtj+qxbx3xnCLVjkYgGbnACaUO2nWt0FFghfZ3TNh+K/3ZqbwH9Xf6JPwso2 QjzKIp/3sPi2X15/Z5NGp3sms/bOwF8FfDFAXHjXyIaO32GOw5v+L88cApu9MXYDvO4L fbIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1685120924; x=1687712924; h=cc:to:from:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=vGiA8RDXZNla+9oLRBME/ADstNGcLr0myZFsD2x+srs=; b=arG3x1NW7jOnXJduP9yhiP7oVsCsGQYTKegzTPaJWqio3WRbl8A3SEd1FNGQ0Ntv0m IcWSkwLcYRar1ol+MZrJMg6B9A/jORF5DDgYz5AZHzqyFT7IT2yP5OUvV0WKACYjh+SN sXljaDlADMkRwJjm3c9sY35DumHkwaCxh7Oic/UxkBOwC+8uvjrXDQVTKn0XIqm2jUAm ySvpB7i2fFF2LjYnl/6ib6qiRnzkqv8csvlz4+zceNt3qrv8+c+EyiTCiEG4ZBDYxJTB c/Q0NcVv7U+ylTcsDlSoaeFWa9Wb6ZQ90KhMpAh1g4b3qzZMI1+/QR9TXqevRdv71pXo d9/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AC+VfDzzzCJu/Ur2pMD1kM85qU8gjgZ+/oEnwsmSUHgNb0S6FszVIAXX W1ZkzOybpBlAduE0DWBfkLGlY8ga6To= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACHHUZ7VjHLnfQxu/pU7xV959/3MV2Qr6me2Aeb/bJmRXm4sLgHq/1MYjPL1W1sqOE2PzCWjfoiItTSNzlA= X-Received: from zagreus.c.googlers.com ([fda3:e722:ac3:cc00:7f:e700:c0a8:5c37]) (user=seanjc job=sendgmr) by 2002:a25:bf89:0:b0:bad:600:1833 with SMTP id l9-20020a25bf89000000b00bad06001833mr1322707ybk.0.1685120923900; Fri, 26 May 2023 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 10:08:42 -0700 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 References: <2f19f26e-20e5-8198-294e-27ea665b706f@redhat.com> <88db2d9cb42e471692ff1feb0b9ca855906a9d95.camel@amazon.com> Message-ID: Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] KVM Microconference at LPC 2023 From: Sean Christopherson To: James Gowans Cc: "kvm@vger.kernel.org" , "pbonzini@redhat.com" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "maz@kernel.org" , Alexander Graf , Nicolas Saenz Julienne Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: kvm@vger.kernel.org On Fri, May 26, 2023, Sean Christopherson wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2023, James Gowans wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-05-09 at 11:55 +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > > > We are planning on submitting a CFP to host a KVM Microconference at > > > Linux Plumbers Conference 2023. To help justify the proposal, we would > > > like to gather a list of folks that would likely attend, and crowdsource > > > a list of topics to include in the proposal. > > > > Hi Paolo, > > > > This MC sounds great! There are two topics I'd be keen to discuss, both in > > the KVM + memory-management realm: > > > > 1. Guest and kernel memory persistence across kexec for live update. > > Specifically focussing on the host IOMMU pgtable persistence for DMA- > > passthrough devices to support kexec while guest-driven DMA is still > > running. There is some discussion happening now about this [1] and > > hopefully the discussion and prototyping will continue in the run up to > > LPC. > > I don't think a KVM MC conference would be the right venue for this discussion. > IIUC, KVM does not need to be involved in preserving guest memory or the IOMMU > page tables. Ah, I assume the KVM involvement comes from a potentially new filesystem for guest memory? 5. More "advanced" memory management APIs/ioctls for virtualisation: Being able to support things like DMA-driven post-copy live migration, memory oversubscription, carving out chunks of memory from a VM to launch side- car VMs, more fine-grain control of IOMMU or MMU permissions, etc. This may be easier to achieve with a new filesystem, rather than coupling to tempfs semantics and ioctls.