From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Joe Jin <joe.jin@oracle.com>,
x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
dave.hansen@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/1] KVM: x86: add param to update master clock periodically
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 17:20:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZSXqZOgLYkwLRWLO@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34057852-f6c0-d6d5-261f-bbb5fa056425@oracle.com>
On Wed, Oct 04, 2023, Dongli Zhang wrote:
> > And because that's not enough, on pCPU migration or if the TSC is unstable,
> > kvm_arch_vcpu_load() requests KVM_REQ_GLOBAL_CLOCK_UPDATE, which schedules
> > kvmclock_update_fn() with a delay of 100ms. The large delay is to play nice with
> > unstable TSCs. But if KVM is periodically doing clock updates on all vCPU,
> > scheduling another update with a *longer* delay is silly.
>
> We may need to add above message to the places, where
> KVM_REQ_GLOBAL_CLOCK_UPDATE is replaced with KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE in the patch?
Yeah, comments are most definitely needed, this was just intended to be a quick
sketch to get the ball rolling.
> > -static void kvm_gen_kvmclock_update(struct kvm_vcpu *v)
> > -{
> > - struct kvm *kvm = v->kvm;
> > -
> > - kvm_make_request(KVM_REQ_CLOCK_UPDATE, v);
> > - schedule_delayed_work(&kvm->arch.kvmclock_update_work,
> > - KVMCLOCK_UPDATE_DELAY);
> > -}
> > -
> > #define KVMCLOCK_SYNC_PERIOD (300 * HZ)
>
> While David mentioned "maximum delta", how about to turn above into a module
> param with the default 300HZ.
>
> BTW, 300HZ should be enough for vCPU hotplug case, unless people prefer 1-hour
> or 1-day.
Hmm, I think I agree with David that it would be better if KVM can take care of
the gory details and promise a certain level of accuracy. I'm usually a fan of
punting complexity to userspace, but requiring every userspace to figure out the
ideal sync frequency on every platform is more than a bit unfriendly. And it
might not even be realistic unless userspace makes assumptions about how the kernel
computes CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW from TSC cycles.
: so rather than having a user-configured period for the update, KVM could
: calculate the frequency for the updates based on the rate at which the clocks
: would otherwise drift, and a maximum delta? Not my favourite option, but
: perhaps better than nothing?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-11 0:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-26 23:06 [PATCH RFC 1/1] KVM: x86: add param to update master clock periodically Dongli Zhang
2023-09-27 0:29 ` Joe Jin
2023-09-27 0:36 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-09-28 16:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-29 20:15 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-02 8:33 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-02 16:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-02 17:17 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-02 18:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-02 21:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-02 21:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-02 18:16 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-03 0:53 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-03 1:32 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-03 1:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-03 2:07 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-03 21:00 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-03 5:54 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-04 0:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-04 10:01 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-04 18:06 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-04 19:13 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-11 0:20 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-10-11 7:18 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-13 18:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-13 18:21 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-13 19:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-13 19:12 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-13 20:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-13 20:12 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-13 23:26 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-14 9:49 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-16 15:47 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-16 16:25 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-16 17:04 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-16 18:49 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-16 22:04 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-16 22:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-17 16:18 ` Dongli Zhang
2023-10-03 9:12 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-04 0:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-04 8:06 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-03 14:29 ` David Woodhouse
2023-10-04 0:10 ` Sean Christopherson
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