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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Anish Moorthy <amoorthy@google.com>
Cc: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	 kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, pbonzini@redhat.com, maz@kernel.org,
	 robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com, jthoughton@google.com,
	axelrasmussen@google.com,  peterx@redhat.com,
	nadav.amit@gmail.com, isaku.yamahata@gmail.com,
	 kconsul@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 10/17] KVM: Implement KVM_CAP_USERFAULT_ON_MISSING by atomizing __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() calls
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2023 15:42:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZULUWucAdR3oWR1y@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF7b7mqEU0rT9dqq5SXvE+XU0TdCbXWk0OW2ayrW5nBg3M_BFg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 01, 2023, Anish Moorthy wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 3:03 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 01, 2023, Anish Moorthy wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 6:44 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Eh, the shortlog basically says "do work" with a lot of fancy words.  It really
> > > > just boils down to:
> > > >
> > > >   KVM: Let callers of __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() opt-out of USERFAULT_ON_MISSING
> > >
> > > Proposed commit message for v6:
> > >
> > > > KVM: Implement KVM_CAP EXIT_ON_MISSING by checking memslot flag in __gfn_to_pfn_memslot()
> > > >
> > > > When the slot flag is enabled, forbid __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() from
> > > > faulting in pages for which mappings are absent. However, some callers of
> > > > __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() (such as kvm_vcpu_map()) must be able to opt out
> > > > of this behavior: allow doing so via the new can_exit_on_missing
> > > > parameter.
> > >
> > > Although separately, I don't think the parameter should be named
> > > can_exit_on_missing (or, as you suggested, can_do_userfault)-
> > > __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() shouldn't know or care how its callers are
> > > setting up KVM exits, after all.
> >
> > Why not?  __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() gets passed all kinds of constraints, I don't
> > see how "I can't handle exits to userspace" is any different.
> 
> Well the thing is that __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() is orthogonal to KVM
> exits. Its callers are just using it to try resolving a pfn, and what
> they do with the results is up to them.

But "how" the pfn is resolved is the business of the caller and of __gfn_to_pfn_memslot().
This already exits in the form of @async and @atomic, which respectively say
"don't wait on I/O" and "can't sleep, period".  The @async name is confusing,
but David Steven's series is planning on replacing that with the much more literal
FOLL_NOWAIT (IIRC).

> Put more concretely, __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() has many callers of which
> only two (the stage-2 fault handlers) actually use it to set up a KVM
> exit- how does a parameter named "can_exit_on_missing" make sense to
> its callers in general? 

It's a flag that says "I can't exit right now, please ignore exit_on_missing".

> If it were __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() itself that was populating the run struct
> in response to absent mappings then I would agree that the name was
> appropriate- but that's not what's going on here.
> 
> (side note, I'll assume that aside from the current naming discussion
> the commit message I proposed is fine)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-01 22:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-08 22:28 [PATCH v5 00/17] Improve KVM + userfaultfd live migration via annotated memory faults Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] KVM: Clarify documentation of hva_to_pfn()'s 'atomic' parameter Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] KVM: Add docstrings to __kvm_read/write_guest_page() Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05  1:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] KVM: Simplify error handling in __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] KVM: Add KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_INFO Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05  1:14   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-05 18:45     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05 22:13       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-10 22:58   ` David Matlack
2023-10-10 23:40     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-16 17:07       ` David Matlack
2023-10-16 19:14         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] KVM: Annotate -EFAULTs from kvm_vcpu_read/write_guest_page() Anish Moorthy
2023-09-14  8:04   ` kernel test robot
2023-10-05  1:53   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-05 23:03   ` Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] KVM: x86: Annotate -EFAULTs from kvm_handle_error_pfn() Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05  1:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-05 23:57     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-10-06  0:36       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] KVM: arm64: Annotate -EFAULT from user_mem_abort() Anish Moorthy
2023-09-28 21:42   ` Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05  1:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-10 23:01   ` David Matlack
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] KVM: Allow hva_pfn_fast() to resolve read faults Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] KVM: Introduce KVM_CAP_USERFAULT_ON_MISSING without implementation Anish Moorthy
2023-10-10 23:16   ` David Matlack
2023-10-11 17:54     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-10-16 19:38       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] KVM: Implement KVM_CAP_USERFAULT_ON_MISSING by atomizing __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() calls Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05  1:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-05 18:58     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-10-06  0:17       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-11 22:04         ` Anish Moorthy
2023-11-01 21:53     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-11-01 22:03       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-01 22:25         ` Anish Moorthy
2023-11-01 22:39           ` David Matlack
2023-11-01 22:42           ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-11-02 19:14       ` Anish Moorthy
2023-11-02 20:25         ` Anish Moorthy
2023-11-03 20:05         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] KVM: x86: Enable KVM_CAP_USERFAULT_ON_MISSING Anish Moorthy
2023-10-05  1:52   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-01 22:55     ` Anish Moorthy
2023-11-02 14:31       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08 22:28 ` [PATCH v5 12/17] KVM: arm64: " Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 13/17] KVM: selftests: Report per-vcpu demand paging rate from demand paging test Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 14/17] KVM: selftests: Allow many vCPUs and reader threads per UFFD in " Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 15/17] KVM: selftests: Use EPOLL in userfaultfd_util reader threads and signal errors via TEST_ASSERT Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 16/17] KVM: selftests: Add memslot_flags parameter to memstress_create_vm() Anish Moorthy
2023-09-08 22:29 ` [PATCH v5 17/17] KVM: selftests: Handle memory fault exits in demand_paging_test Anish Moorthy

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