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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Robert Hoo <robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] KVM: x86: Update guest cpu_caps at runtime for dynamic CPUID-based features
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 07:09:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZVTfG6mARiyttuKj@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9395d416-cc5c-536d-641e-ffd971b682d1@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, Robert Hoo wrote:
> On 11/14/2023 9:48 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, Robert Hoo wrote:
> ...
> > > u32 *caps  = vcpu->arch.cpu_caps;
> > > and update guest_cpu_cap_set(), guest_cpu_cap_clear(),
> > > guest_cpu_cap_change() and guest_cpu_cap_restrict() to pass in
> > > vcpu->arch.cpu_caps instead of vcpu, since all of them merely refer to vcpu
> > > cap, rather than whole vcpu info.
> > 
> > No, because then every caller would need extra code to pass
> > vcpu->cpu_caps,
> 
> Emm, I don't understand this. I tried to modified and compiled, all need to
> do is simply substitute "vcpu" with "vcpu->arch.cpu_caps" in calling. (at
> the end is my diff based on this patch set)

Yes, and I'm saying that

	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_PAUSEFILTER);
	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_PFTHRESHOLD);
	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_VGIF);
	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_VNMI);

is harder to read and write than this

	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu->arch.cpu_caps, X86_FEATURE_PAUSEFILTER);
	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu->arch.cpu_caps, X86_FEATURE_PFTHRESHOLD);
	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu->arch.cpu_caps, X86_FEATURE_VGIF);
	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(vcpu->arch.cpu_caps, X86_FEATURE_VNMI);

a one-time search-replace is easy, but the extra boilerplate has a non-zero cost
for every future developer/reader.

> > and passing 'u32 *' provides less type safety than 'struct kvm_vcpu *'.
> > That tradeoff isn't worth making this one path slightly easier to read.
> 
> My point is also from vulnerability, long term, since as a principle, we'd
> better pass in param/info to a function of its necessity.

Attempting to apply the principle of least privilege to low level C helpers is
nonsensical.  E.g. the helper can trivially get at the owning vcpu via container_of()
(well, if not for typeof assertions not playing nice with arrays, but open coding
container_of() is also trivial and illustrates the point).

	struct kvm_vcpu_arch *arch = (void *)caps -  offsetof(struct kvm_vcpu_arch, cpu_caps);
	struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu = container_of(arch, struct kvm_vcpu, arch);

	if (!kvm_cpu_cap_has(x86_feature))
		guest_cpu_cap_clear(vcpu, x86_feature);

And the intent behind that principle is to improve security/robustness; what I'm
saying is that passing in a 'u32 *" makes the overall implementation _less_ robust,
as it opens up the possibilities of passing in an unsafe/incorrect pointer.  E.g.
a well-intentioned, not _that_ obviously broken example is:

	guest_cpu_cap_restrict(&vcpu->arch.cpu_caps[CPUID_1_ECX], X86_FEATURE_XSAVE);

> e.g. cpuid_entry2_find().

The main reason cpuid_entry2_find() exists is because KVM checks the incoming
array provided by KVM_SET_CPUID2, which is also the reason why
__kvm_update_cpuid_runtime() takes an @entries array instead of just @vcpu.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-15 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-10 23:55 [PATCH 0/9] KVM: x86: Replace governed features with guest cpu_caps Sean Christopherson
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 1/9] KVM: x86: Rename "governed features" helpers to use "guest_cpu_cap" Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:08   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-21  3:20   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 2/9] KVM: x86: Replace guts of "goverened" features with comprehensive cpu_caps Sean Christopherson
2023-11-14  9:12   ` Binbin Wu
2023-11-19 17:22   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-28  1:24     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 3/9] KVM: x86: Initialize guest cpu_caps based on guest CPUID Sean Christopherson
2023-11-16  3:16   ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-16 22:29     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-17  8:33       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-21  3:10         ` Yuan Yao
2023-11-19 17:32   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-12-01  1:51     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-21 16:59       ` Maxim Levitsky
2024-01-05  2:13         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-12  0:44           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 4/9] KVM: x86: Avoid double CPUID lookup when updating MWAIT at runtime Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:33   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 5/9] KVM: x86: Drop unnecessary check that cpuid_entry2_find() returns right leaf Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:33   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 6/9] KVM: x86: Update guest cpu_caps at runtime for dynamic CPUID-based features Sean Christopherson
2023-11-13  8:03   ` Robert Hoo
2023-11-14 13:48     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-15  1:59       ` Robert Hoo
2023-11-15 15:09         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-11-17  1:28           ` Robert Hoo
2023-11-16  2:24   ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-16 22:19     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:35   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-24  6:33     ` Xu Yilun
2023-11-28  0:43       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-28  5:13         ` Xu Yilun
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 7/9] KVM: x86: Shuffle code to prepare for dropping guest_cpuid_has() Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:35   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 8/9] KVM: x86: Replace all guest CPUID feature queries with cpu_caps check Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:35   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-10 23:55 ` [PATCH 9/9] KVM: x86: Restrict XSAVE in cpu_caps based on KVM capabilities Sean Christopherson
2023-11-19 17:36   ` Maxim Levitsky

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