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From: Tao Su <tao1.su@linux.intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, eddie.dong@intel.com,
	xiaoyao.li@intel.com, yuan.yao@linux.intel.com,
	yi1.lai@intel.com, xudong.hao@intel.com, chao.p.peng@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86: KVM: Limit guest physical bits when 5-level EPT is unsupported
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 19:56:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZZac2AFdR9YTkhuZ@linux.bj.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eRS9o7YDDaOcjBB0QTeF_vRA2LMvQqc2Sb-7XhyDi=1LA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 08:34:16PM -0800, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 7:40 PM Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 6:45 PM Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 10:04:41AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > >On Tue, Jan 02, 2024, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 3:24 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023, Xu Yilun wrote:
> > > >> > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 08:28:06AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > >> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > > >> > > > > index c57e181bba21..72634d6b61b2 100644
> > > >> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > > >> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > > >> > > > > @@ -5177,6 +5177,13 @@ void __kvm_mmu_refresh_passthrough_bits(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> > > >> > > > >   reset_guest_paging_metadata(vcpu, mmu);
> > > >> > > > >  }
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > +/* guest-physical-address bits limited by TDP */
> > > >> > > > > +unsigned int kvm_mmu_tdp_maxphyaddr(void)
> > > >> > > > > +{
> > > >> > > > > + return max_tdp_level == 5 ? 57 : 48;
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Using "57" is kinda sorta wrong, e.g. the SDM says:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >   Bits 56:52 of each guest-physical address are necessarily zero because
> > > >> > > >   guest-physical addresses are architecturally limited to 52 bits.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Rather than split hairs over something that doesn't matter, I think it makes sense
> > > >> > > > for the CPUID code to consume max_tdp_level directly (I forgot that max_tdp_level
> > > >> > > > is still accurate when tdp_root_level is non-zero).
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > It is still accurate for now. Only AMD SVM sets tdp_root_level the same as
> > > >> > > max_tdp_level:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >       kvm_configure_mmu(npt_enabled, get_npt_level(),
> > > >> > >                         get_npt_level(), PG_LEVEL_1G);
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > But I wanna doulbe confirm if directly using max_tdp_level is fully
> > > >> > > considered.  In your last proposal, it is:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >   u8 kvm_mmu_get_max_tdp_level(void)
> > > >> > >   {
> > > >> > >       return tdp_root_level ? tdp_root_level : max_tdp_level;
> > > >> > >   }
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > and I think it makes more sense, because EPT setup follows the same
> > > >> > > rule.  If any future architechture sets tdp_root_level smaller than
> > > >> > > max_tdp_level, the issue will happen again.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Setting tdp_root_level != max_tdp_level would be a blatant bug.  max_tdp_level
> > > >> > really means "max possible TDP level KVM can use".  If an exact TDP level is being
> > > >> > forced by tdp_root_level, then by definition it's also the max TDP level, because
> > > >> > it's the _only_ TDP level KVM supports.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is all just so broken and wrong. The only guest.MAXPHYADDR that
> > > >> can be supported under TDP is the host.MAXPHYADDR. If KVM claims to
> > > >> support a smaller guest.MAXPHYADDR, then KVM is obligated to intercept
> > > >> every #PF,
> > >
> > > in this case (i.e., to support 48-bit guest.MAXPHYADDR when CPU supports only
> > > 4-level EPT), KVM has no need to intercept #PF because accessing a GPA with
> > > RSVD bits 51-48 set leads to EPT violation.
> >
> > At the completion of the page table walk, if there is a permission
> > fault, the data address should not be accessed, so there should not be
> > an EPT violation. Remember Meltdown?
> >
> > > >> and to emulate the faulting instruction to see if the RSVD
> > > >> bit should be set in the error code. Hardware isn't going to do it.
> > >
> > > Note for EPT violation VM exits, the CPU stores the GPA that caused this exit
> > > in "guest-physical address" field of VMCS. so, it is not necessary to emulate
> > > the faulting instruction to determine if any RSVD bit is set.
> >
> > There should not be an EPT violation in the case discussed.
> 
> For intercepted #PF, we can use CR2 to determine the necessary page
> walk, and presumably the rest of the bits in the error code are
> already set, so emulation is not necessary.
> 
> However, emulation is necessary when synthesizing a #PF from an EPT
> violation, and bit 8 of the exit qualification is clear. See
> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/4463f391-0a25-017e-f913-69c297e13c5e@redhat.com/.

Although not all memory-accessing instructions are emulated, it covers most common
cases and is always better than KVM hangs anyway. We may probably continue to
improve allow_smaller_maxphyaddr, but KVM should report the maximum physical width
it supports.

Thanks,
Tao

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-04 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-18 14:05 [PATCH 0/2] x86: KVM: Limit guest physical bits when 5-level EPT is unsupported Tao Su
2023-12-18 14:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Tao Su
2023-12-18 15:13   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-19  2:51     ` Chao Gao
2023-12-19  3:40       ` Jim Mattson
2023-12-19  8:09         ` Chao Gao
2023-12-19 15:26           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-20  7:16             ` Xiaoyao Li
2023-12-20 15:37               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-20 11:59             ` Tao Su
2023-12-20 13:39             ` Jim Mattson
2023-12-19  8:31     ` Tao Su
2023-12-20 16:28   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-21  7:45     ` Tao Su
2023-12-21  8:19     ` Xu Yilun
2024-01-02 23:24       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-03  0:34         ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-03 18:04           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-04  2:45             ` Chao Gao
2024-01-04  3:40               ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-04  4:34                 ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-04 11:56                   ` Tao Su [this message]
2024-01-04 14:03                     ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-04 15:07                 ` Chao Gao
2024-01-04 17:02                   ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-05 20:26                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-08 13:45                       ` Tao Su
2024-01-08 15:29                         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-18 14:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86: KVM: Emulate instruction when GPA can't be translated by EPT Tao Su
2023-12-18 15:23   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-12-19  3:10     ` Chao Gao
2023-12-20 13:42   ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-08 13:48     ` Tao Su
2024-01-08 15:19       ` Sean Christopherson

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