From: Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: folio_mmapped
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 12:36:10 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeXAOit6O0stdxw3@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fc486cb4-0fe3-403f-b5e6-26d2140fcef9@redhat.com>
On Thursday 29 Feb 2024 at 11:04:09 (+0100), David Hildenbrand wrote:
> An alternative would be to remember in pKVM that a page needs a wipe before
> reaccess. Once re-accessed by anybody (hypervisor or new guest), it first
> has to be wiped by pKVM.
>
> ... but that also sounds complicated and similar requires the linear
> map+unmap in pKVM page-by-page as they are reused. But at least a guest
> shutdown would be faster.
Yep, FWIW we did try that, but ended up having issues with Linux trying
to DMA to these pages before 'touching' them from the CPU side. pKVM can
keep the pages unmapped from the CPU and IOMMU stage-2 page-tables, and
we can easily handle the CPU faults lazily, but not faults from other
masters, our hardware generally doesn't support that.
<snip>
> As discussed in the sub-thread, that might still be required.
>
> One could think about completely forbidding GUP on these mmap'ed
> guest-memfds. But likely, there might be use cases in the future where you
> want to use GUP on shared memory inside a guest_memfd.
>
> (the iouring example I gave might currently not work because
> FOLL_PIN|FOLL_LONGTERM|FOLL_WRITE only works on shmem+hugetlb, and
> guest_memfd will likely not be detected as shmem; 8ac268436e6d contains some
> details)
Perhaps it would be wise to start with GUP being forbidden if the
current users do not need it (not sure if that is the case in Android,
I'll check) ? We can always relax this constraint later when/if the
use-cases arise, which is obviously much harder to do the other way
around.
Thanks,
Quentin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-04 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-22 16:10 [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and pKVM/arm64 support Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/26] KVM: Split KVM memory attributes into user and kernel attributes Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/26] KVM: Introduce kvm_gmem_get_pfn_locked(), which retains the folio lock Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/26] KVM: Add restricted support for mapping guestmem by the host Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 8:58 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-02-26 9:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 17:30 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-02-27 7:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/26] KVM: Don't allow private attribute to be set if mapped by host Fuad Tabba
2024-04-17 23:27 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-18 10:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/26] KVM: Don't allow private attribute to be removed for unmappable memory Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/26] KVM: Implement kvm_(read|/write)_guest_page for private memory slots Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/26] KVM: arm64: Turn llist of pinned pages into an rb-tree Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/26] KVM: arm64: Implement MEM_RELINQUISH SMCCC hypercall Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/26] KVM: arm64: Strictly check page type in MEM_RELINQUISH hypercall Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/26] KVM: arm64: Avoid unnecessary unmap walk " Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/26] KVM: arm64: Add initial support for KVM_CAP_EXIT_HYPERCALL Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/26] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to receive SHARE and UNSHARE notifications Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/26] KVM: arm64: Create hypercall return handler Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/26] KVM: arm64: Refactor code around handling return from host to guest Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/26] KVM: arm64: Rename kvm_pinned_page to kvm_guest_page Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/26] KVM: arm64: Add a field to indicate whether the guest page was pinned Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/26] KVM: arm64: Do not allow changes to private memory slots Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/26] KVM: arm64: Skip VMA checks for slots without userspace address Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/26] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/26] KVM: arm64: Track sharing of memory from protected guest to host Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/26] KVM: arm64: Mark a protected VM's memory as unmappable at initialization Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/26] KVM: arm64: Handle unshare on way back to guest entry rather than exit Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/26] KVM: arm64: Check that host unmaps memory unshared by guest Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/26] KVM: arm64: Add handlers for kvm_arch_*_set_memory_attributes() Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/26] KVM: arm64: Enable private memory support when pKVM is enabled Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 16:10 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/26] KVM: arm64: Enable private memory kconfig for arm64 Fuad Tabba
2024-02-22 23:43 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and pKVM/arm64 support Elliot Berman
2024-02-23 0:35 ` folio_mmapped Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-26 9:28 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 21:14 ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-02-27 14:59 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 10:48 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 11:11 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 12:44 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 13:00 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 13:34 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 18:43 ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-02-28 18:51 ` Quentin Perret
2024-02-29 10:04 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-29 19:01 ` folio_mmapped Fuad Tabba
2024-03-01 0:40 ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-01 11:16 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 12:53 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-04 20:22 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 11:06 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 12:36 ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2024-03-04 19:04 ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-04 20:17 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:43 ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-04 21:58 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 9:47 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-19 9:54 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-18 17:06 ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-03-18 22:02 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-18 23:07 ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-03-19 0:10 ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-19 10:26 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 13:19 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 14:31 ` folio_mmapped Will Deacon
2024-03-19 23:54 ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-22 16:36 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-22 18:46 ` Elliot Berman
2024-03-27 19:31 ` Will Deacon
2024-03-22 17:52 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-22 21:21 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 22:04 ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-27 17:50 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-27 19:34 ` folio_mmapped Will Deacon
2024-03-28 9:06 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-28 10:10 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-28 10:32 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-28 10:58 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-28 11:41 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-29 18:38 ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-04-04 0:15 ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-19 15:04 ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-22 17:16 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and pKVM/arm64 support Fuad Tabba
2024-02-23 12:00 ` Alexandru Elisei
2024-02-26 9:05 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-02-26 9:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-27 9:37 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-02-27 14:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-27 14:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 9:57 ` Fuad Tabba
2024-02-28 10:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 14:01 ` Quentin Perret
2024-02-29 9:51 ` David Hildenbrand
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