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From: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Anish Moorthy <amoorthy@google.com>,
	oliver.upton@linux.dev, maz@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, robert.hoo.linux@gmail.com,
	jthoughton@google.com, axelrasmussen@google.com,
	peterx@redhat.com, nadav.amit@gmail.com,
	isaku.yamahata@gmail.com, kconsul@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/14] KVM: Add memslot flag to let userspace force an exit on missing hva mappings
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 16:46:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZeuxaHlZzI4qnnFq@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZeuMEdQTFADDSFkX@google.com>

On 2024-03-08 02:07 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, Anish Moorthy wrote:
> > diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > index 9f5d45c49e36..bf7bc21d56ac 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst
> > @@ -1353,6 +1353,7 @@ yet and must be cleared on entry.
> >    #define KVM_MEM_LOG_DIRTY_PAGES	(1UL << 0)
> >    #define KVM_MEM_READONLY	(1UL << 1)
> >    #define KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD      (1UL << 2)
> > +  #define KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING  (1UL << 3)
> 
> David M.,
> 
> Before this gets queued anywhere, a few questions related to the generic KVM
> userfault stuff you're working on:
> 
>   1. Do you anticipate reusing KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING to communicate that a vCPU
>      should exit to userspace, even for guest_memfd?  Or are you envisioning the
>      "data invalid" gfn attribute as being a superset?
> 
>      We danced very close to this topic in the PUCK call, but I don't _think_ we
>      ever explicitly talked about whether or not KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING would
>      effectively be obsoleted by a KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES-based "invalid data"
>      flag.
> 
>      I was originally thinking that KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING would be re-used,
>      but after re-watching parts of the PUCK recording, e.g. about decoupling
>      KVM from userspace page tables, I suspect past me was wrong.

No I don't anticipate reusing KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING.

The plan is to introduce a new gfn attribute and exit to userspace based
on that. I do forsee having an on/off switch for the new attribute, but
it wouldn't make sense to reuse KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING for that.

> 
>   2. What is your best guess as to when KVM userfault patches will be available,
>      even if only in RFC form?

We're aiming for the end of April for RFC with KVM/ARM support.

> 
> The reason I ask is because Oliver pointed out (off-list) that (a) Google is the
> primary user for KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING, possibly the _only_ user for the
> forseeable future, and (b) if Google moves on to KVM userfault before ever
> ingesting KVM_MEM_EXIT_ON_MISSING from upstream, then we'll have effectively
> added dead code to KVM's eternal ABI.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-09  0:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-15 23:53 [PATCH v7 00/14] Improve KVM + userfaultfd performance via KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULTs on stage-2 faults Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] KVM: Clarify meaning of hva_to_pfn()'s 'atomic' parameter Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] KVM: Add function comments for __kvm_read/write_guest_page() Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] KVM: Documentation: Make note of the KVM_MEM_GUEST_MEMFD memslot flag Anish Moorthy
2024-04-09 22:47   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] KVM: Simplify error handling in __gfn_to_pfn_memslot() Anish Moorthy
2024-04-09 22:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] KVM: Define and communicate KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT RWX flags to userspace Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] KVM: Add memslot flag to let userspace force an exit on missing hva mappings Anish Moorthy
2024-03-08 22:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-09  0:46     ` David Matlack [this message]
2024-03-11  4:45       ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-11 16:20         ` David Matlack
2024-07-03 17:34           ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-07-03 20:11             ` David Matlack
2024-07-04 10:10               ` Nikita Kalyazin
2024-03-11 16:36         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-11 17:08           ` Anish Moorthy
2024-03-11 21:21             ` Oliver Upton
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] KVM: x86: Enable KVM_CAP_EXIT_ON_MISSING and annotate EFAULTs from stage-2 fault handler Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:53 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] KVM: arm64: Enable KVM_CAP_MEMORY_FAULT_INFO and annotate fault in the " Anish Moorthy
2024-03-04 20:00   ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-04 20:10     ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-04 20:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-04 21:03         ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-04 22:49           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-03-05  1:01             ` Oliver Upton
2024-03-05 15:39               ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-15 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] KVM: arm64: Implement and advertise KVM_CAP_EXIT_ON_MISSING Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] KVM: selftests: Report per-vcpu demand paging rate from demand paging test Anish Moorthy
2024-04-09 22:49   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-15 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] KVM: selftests: Allow many vCPUs and reader threads per UFFD in " Anish Moorthy
2024-04-09 22:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-15 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] KVM: selftests: Use EPOLL in userfaultfd_util reader threads and signal errors via TEST_ASSERT Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] KVM: selftests: Add memslot_flags parameter to memstress_create_vm() Anish Moorthy
2024-02-15 23:54 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] KVM: selftests: Handle memory fault exits in demand_paging_test Anish Moorthy
2024-02-16  7:36 ` [PATCH v7 00/14] Improve KVM + userfaultfd performance via KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULTs on stage-2 faults Gupta, Pankaj
2024-02-16 20:00   ` Anish Moorthy
2024-02-16 23:40     ` Axel Rasmussen
2024-02-21  7:35       ` Gupta, Pankaj
2024-04-10  0:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-07 17:38   ` Anish Moorthy

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