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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Stevens <stevensd@chromium.org>,
	 Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Rework marking folios dirty/accessed
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 10:31:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zg7j2D6WFqcPaXFB@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42dbf562-5eab-4f82-ad77-5ee5b8c79285@redhat.com>

On Thu, Apr 04, 2024, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 04.04.24 00:19, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Hmm, we essentially already have an mmu_notifier today, since secondary MMUs need
> > to be invalidated before consuming dirty status.  Isn't the end result essentially
> > a sane FOLL_TOUCH?
> 
> Likely. As stated in my first mail, FOLL_TOUCH is a bit of a mess right now.
> 
> Having something that makes sure the writable PTE/PMD is dirty (or
> alternatively sets it dirty), paired with MMU notifiers notifying on any
> mkclean would be one option that would leave handling how to handle dirtying
> of folios completely to the core. It would behave just like a CPU writing to
> the page table, which would set the pte dirty.
> 
> Of course, if frequent clearing of the dirty PTE/PMD bit would be a problem
> (like we discussed for the accessed bit), that would not be an option. But
> from what I recall, only clearing the PTE/PMD dirty bit is rather rare.

And AFAICT, all cases already invalidate secondary MMUs anyways, so if anything
it would probably be a net positive, e.g. the notification could more precisely
say that SPTEs need to be read-only, not blasted away completely.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-04 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-20  0:50 [RFC PATCH 0/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Rework marking folios dirty/accessed Sean Christopherson
2024-03-20  0:50 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Skip the "try unsync" path iff the old SPTE was a leaf SPTE Sean Christopherson
2024-03-20  0:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Mark folio dirty when creating SPTE, not when zapping/modifying Sean Christopherson
2024-03-20  0:50 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Mark page/folio accessed only when zapping leaf SPTEs Sean Christopherson
2024-03-20  0:50 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Don't force flush if SPTE update clears Accessed bit Sean Christopherson
2024-03-20 12:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Rework marking folios dirty/accessed David Hildenbrand
2024-04-02 17:38   ` David Matlack
2024-04-02 18:31     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-03  0:17       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-03 21:43         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-03 22:19           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-04 15:44             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-04 17:31               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-04-04 18:23                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-04 22:02                   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-05  6:53                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-05  9:37                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-04-05 10:14                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-04-05 13:59                           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-05 14:06                             ` Paolo Bonzini

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